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NS,
You are an evil genius.
That is an all too plausible scenario.
You are an evil genius.
That is an all too plausible scenario.
NavyShooter said:I ain't no ossifer, I's 'just' a chief.
Oldgateboatdriver said:What makes you think that Joe Public - or even the GoC - knows the difference between a commissioned officer or a Chief Petty Officer, where "naval" officers are concerned. ;D
Its really pretty simple and our media would know if they'd just fricken ask.Infanteer said:Nor should they really. I don't really know the hierarchy in a hospital or an oil field, and I wouldn't be chided for not knowing.
Oldgateboatdriver said:I can live with Joe Public not knowing, though they really ought to have at least a basic idea. But the GoC? Inexcusable! After debt servicing, national defence is the single largest federal budget item. They are there to manage our money and so they should have a clue. The same way that, while I don't necessarily know about hospital management, I still expect my Provincial government to know all about it.
JMCanada said:Back to the "poll"... I would go for two new ships based on the AOPS but fitted for/as submarine rescue and ocean-going tugs.
I think they would not need big changes from original AOPS, main ones could be
- dedicated new sonar and sensors suite
- longer endurance, so the need for increased fuel and provisions capacity.
- new, appropiate crane.
- maybe propellers or propulsion system should be also reviewed to slightly increase speed (by 3-5 knots I guess).
- perhaps they would not require to deal with 120 cm thick ice... maybe 70 cm would be fine.
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JMCanada said:Back to the "poll"... I would go for two new ships based on the AOPS but fitted for/as submarine rescue and ocean-going tugs.
I think they would not need big changes from original AOPS, main ones could be
- dedicated new sonar and sensors suite
- longer endurance, so the need for increased fuel and provisions capacity.
- new, appropiate crane.
- maybe propellers or propulsion system should be also reviewed to slightly increase speed (by 3-5 knots I guess).
- perhaps they would not require to deal with 120 cm thick ice... maybe 70 cm would be fine.
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CBH99 said:Not a half bad looking ship...
15 of those with state of the art "whatever we need" might not be all that bad. (More complicated than that, I know...)
But still. A C2 capable AAW ship that would be decently simple to move forwards on.
Swampbuggy said:Wondering about the radar stealthiness of this design, though. It’s my understanding that lots of right angles and hard edges make the vessel easier to find with radar, but I’m not an expert. I suppose you could clean that up, a little, with out much of a major change to the plans?
LoboCanada said:I'm sure any ship designer/engineering firm could clean some of the exterior up somehow...
What could you reasonably change to a CPF to make modern (again) enough through to the late 2020s? How can you re-configure a CPF for C2 and AAW that could be done as a moderate refit?
Even if the platform design dates back to the 80s.