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"ladies and gentlemen, remain calm. We have hijacked this thread and are re-directing it in various directions. It will all make sense.... at some point"
jollyjacktar said:What impressed me the most was the weight and feel of the fabric. These are going to very comfortable. I'm shocked, l tell you, shocked.
There are few tweaks that need to be done to satisfy the adults. The shirt on display has buttons, they did do a prototype with zipper and from what the Logistik man was saying "buttons" and an naval officer who's in the project said "zippers, not 15 minutes ago", L-man said Kracken had just been by and said "buttons". Zippers would have been my vote too.
The trousers even have a little zip pocket in the pocket to keep change or other small things secure.
Yes, Dimsum, I think these in green would be aircrew friendly.
jollyjacktar said:Yes. I'd say for the trousers, 99%. The shirt needs a few tweaks to enable the sleeves to be rolled up comfortably. L-man was suggesting tweak here and a stich there then a final production model for the royal assent from the adults. They hope to be in production for a spring delivery. But you can pretty much take what you see here to the bank as the changes won't really be noticable to us.
Chief Stoker said:Yes it appears quite different to what the Kraken was wearing. I may have to steal your pictures and post them on my page.
jollyjacktar said:They're not at all like the CADPAT anymore. The trousers are a closer fitting cut, we don't need the baggy legs. Apparently the Army is envious of the design and cut as well.
I forgot. The female shirts will have the rank Velcro lowered as they need it to accommodate for their physical attributes.
Dimsum said:(I wanted to say "in the air" but come on...)
Navy_Pete said:Ironically the previous shirts, pants and jackets being poorly fitted did a really good job for fire protection; if you look at the results from the burn testing, the areas that were fully covered generally signficantly reduced the burns received, but there was still some first/second degree burns in spots where both layers tend to touch the skin (like between the shoulder blades).
Around the waist, where most people have huge baggy pockets of fabric where generally almost no burns; the air pockets prevented any significant heat transfer.
If you haven't seen the test video, they basically took an old pair of NCDs, put it on a dummy in the middle of four flamethrowers, hit it with a five second blast, then did some analysis (it was kitted out with sensors to measure the max temp, heat flux, etc).
They were ugly and didn't fit well, but felt a lot better about my chances of being able to run up a ladder through a hot gas layer (in a Kootenay type experience), or being in a space where something flared off (like a gas turbine with an oil leak that shot a fireball into the engine room).
FSTO said:But people (not me) want to wear their NCD's in air conditioned offices ashore. :brickwall:
FSTO said:But people (not me) want to wear their NCD's in air conditioned offices ashore. :brickwall: