Name This Photo!!! - The AFV Recognition Thread

[vonGarvin]

Dang it, I was too slow!

 

[ironduke57]

To be exact: Ob'yekt 279.

Regards,
ironduke57

 

[vonGarvin]

To be exact: Ob'yekt 279.

Regards,
ironduke57

Or, in cyrillic:
Объект 279

;D
Regards

 

[McG]

Okay. It is one of the prototype´s of the failed "Type 122" MBT project.

Interesting thing.  Not much information on it, but it sounds like it may have been an attempt to get a medium tank with the firepower of a heavy ... plus integrate a lot of new technology.  I found a Wikipedia claim that "after the Korean War, China had attempted to reverse-engineer the IS-2/IS-3 as Type 122 medium tank."  I strongly doubt this given that the Type 122 appears to be a medium/main battle tank and not a heavy tank (which the IS-2 was).  I also find it interesting that there is no suggestion of this at the site referenced by Wikipedia: http://www.geocities.com/desperado6_sp3/Type122.html

Generally very little is known about this tank.  Alegedly it was develoed from a damaged soviet T-62 captured in the Sino-Soviet Conflict.  As the story goes too many 'improvements' were made to the T-62 design in the reverse engineering process and the tank was a miserable failure.  A few noticeable differences from the T-62 include the twin 12.7mm Type 54 AAMGs, the faired over sponsons, ubiquitous stamped red star fenders, and larger gun.  Of the only two pics I have seen of this tank, each has a different gun.  My guess is one is with the original 115mm gun and the other an 'improved' 122mm D-25T gun derived from supplied IS-2m tanks with new muzzle brakes.

I can find posts on a few other bulletin boards supporting the idea that the Type 122 was a development of captured T-62.  However, it appears to me that it may have been a hybriding of T-55/Type 59 with developments of the T-62 (odd thought given that the T-62 was directly evolved from the T-55).  The road wheel layout of the Type 122 is that of a T-54/55 or a Type 59/69.  Note the space after the first road wheel which is not found on a T-62.  The turret shape reminds me more of a T-62 but some features (such as the ports either side of the main gun) still retain the T-55 look.

Looks as though it is fitted with 4 of some sort of ready to fire tube launched ATGM.  Possibly to make up for short comings of a 100 mm or 105 mm main gun?

looking at it now, those four tubes look smaller than the main gun.  If it is a 120 mm gun of a T10, then I'd suspect the tubes to be fore 107 mm rockets allowing a Tank Pl or Coy to launch a whirlwind barrage just before (or while) crossing the LOD.

... I can't find any reliable ref on this vehicle though.  Is there one?

 

[sober_ruski]

Dang. And i thought it was a curve ball  :-[

with Cyrillic and all, ironduke gets it

 

[ironduke57]

@MCG Here is the page from which the pic came I used:
- http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2005_02_01_china-defense_archive.html (Scroll a bit down.)

It is also listed at JED with pics of some of the other prototype´s for this project:
- http://www.jedsite.info/tanks-tango/tango-type/type-122_series/type122-series.html#1222

@sober_ruski
The most unusual vehicle´s are mostly quite easy, because when you have seen them once you will remember them easily.

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As I just had a round, I give it free.

Regards,
ironduke57

 

[McG]

... and let's get this rolling again.

 

[Nfld Sapper]

Great War vintage?

 

[McG]

Can't be giving out those kinds of hints this early.  Wouldn't be fair to those who know.

 

[larry Strong]

"Goliath" (Sd.Kfz.302/303a/303b). And I have a piccie this time.

 

[Richie]

You've got the scale of the thing all wrong.

'Doodlebugs' (known as 'Goliath' in Germany) - remote controlled tanks, loaded with high explosives.

 

[Richie]

Missed it by 36 seconds!  :crybaby:

 

[McG]

"Goliath"

Yes.  The floor is your's

 

[larry Strong]

I am looking for the "Red" hull, and no it's not a "Panther"

 

[BernDawg]

First blush... M-10 Tank Destroyer

 

[larry Strong]

No...it's German

 

[BernDawg]

"Daimler-Benz "T-34 type" proposal".  The Govt went with the MAN design for the Panther as it was not so much a direct copy of the T-34 and the Daimler never went past the proto models produced and I'm guessing that this is one of them found in a factory yard somewhere in Germany in early - mid 1945.

 

[larry Strong]

Yes what was the proper prototype number?

 

[McG]

VK3002

 

[larry Strong]

Correct. Its was only hull... pic taken post-war of the Daimler-Panther project!