Medical rejected

[deuce90]

I got stuck in medical too, I sent an extensive appeal letter explaining everything as well as my doctor doing the same, and the appeal was lost. It honestly took 3 days for them to say no this doesnt over-turn the appeal. So im gonna be appealing again. Because my thing was an anxiety and depressive issue I was diagnosed with at 20 when I had an emotional break due to that mindset at that time that I overcame and dealt with a long time ago (33 now) and they are still like nah, and to me its discouraging cause what was diagnosed to me 13 years ago, should not dicate the person I am today, the things ive overcome and beat. And the fact I never hid it, i was open and honest, I rather have someone like that in my unit than someone who never experienced trauma and how to process it and lied their way in.. but thats just me.

 

[sarahsmom]

I got stuck in medical too, I sent an extensive appeal letter explaining everything as well as my doctor doing the same, and the appeal was lost. It honestly took 3 days for them to say no this doesnt over-turn the appeal. So im gonna be appealing again. Because my thing was an anxiety and depressive issue I was diagnosed with at 20 when I had an emotional break due to that mindset at that time that I overcame and dealt with a long time ago (33 now) and they are still like nah, and to me its discouraging cause what was diagnosed to me 13 years ago, should not dicate the person I am today, the things ive overcome and beat. And the fact I never hid it, i was open and honest, I rather have someone like that in my unit than someone who never experienced trauma and how to process it and lied their way in.. but thats just me.

But make sure your exhaustive and detailed appeal letter comes from your DOCTOR and not from you personally. The RMO likely won't even read any letter or appeal written by a random applicant.It will more than likely just get tossed. All the proofs and evidences that show you are not as bad as they thought you were, MUST come from your health professional.

 

[deuce90]

But make sure your exhaustive and detailed appeal letter comes from your DOCTOR and not from you personally. The RMO likely won't even read any letter or appeal written by a random applicant.It will more than likely just get tossed. All the proofs and evidences that show you are not as bad as they thought you were, MUST come from your health professional.

Yeah im deff gonna have my doc write up another with new info and make it more apparent that hey these things are not issues and havent been for X years

 

[Rjay]

As @PuckChaser said, no one here is going to tell you what to say, primarily because that would be a road map for you (or others) to game the system (IOW - to lie), but also because it's not what you say that matters but what your physician writes. Some docs are very accomplished at crafting third party reports (and if they know they have that skill, they usually are able to have a lucrative sideline to their practice) - I've worked for with a couple. I've also worked with a lot more who can (or will only?) barely scribble a line or two in response to a request for information. The RMO will be seeking the former rather than the latter.

All physicians are (or should be) familiar with their responsibilities in regard to third party reports. Some extracts from the CPSO's policies.



There is nothing wrong with requesting to see your doctor's comments before they are submitted, nor would it be improper to bring to her attention any concerns you may have about them being incomplete or inaccurate. However, don't expect any physician to change their report based on your hearsay, when your medical records don't substantiate your preferred version.

Yeah im deff gonna have my doc write up another with new info and make it more apparent that hey these things are not issues and havent been for X years

Jesus Christ for a second I was lost hearing you lost appeal as I thought the letter was from doctors phewww

 

[Rjay]

As @PuckChaser said, no one here is going to tell you what to say, primarily because that would be a road map for you (or others) to game the system (IOW - to lie), but also because it's not what you say that matters but what your physician writes. Some docs are very accomplished at crafting third party reports (and if they know they have that skill, they usually are able to have a lucrative sideline to their practice) - I've worked for with a couple. I've also worked with a lot more who can (or will only?) barely scribble a line or two in response to a request for information. The RMO will be seeking the former rather than the latter.

All physicians are (or should be) familiar with their responsibilities in regard to third party reports. Some extracts from the CPSO's policies.



There is nothing wrong with requesting to see your doctor's comments before they are submitted, nor would it be improper to bring to her attention any concerns you may have about them being incomplete or inaccurate. However, don't expect any physician to change their report based on your hearsay, when your medical records don't substantiate your preferred version.

My doctor already said this to me when I gave her the form and she said this form is vague I’m not sure about this, I honestly went and said my sadness and she said you are fine everyone in Canada is experiencing this, but officially it was a one time council and she said if you are in tension have sleeping trouble you can take medication which she prescribe and I said it’s fine I don’t want any medication and I got over from that moment, I honestly shouldn’t even have said this but bang my honesty

 

[deuce90]

Jesus Christ for a second I was lost hearing you lost appeal as I thought the letter was from doctors phewww

So i did an extensive letter myself, feeling it would also be best to hear from me, my doctors semi matched mine, I submitted both, and lost the appeal. So im gonna see my doctor and be like hey, you need to expand further on this and get really in detail more than you did on the previous one

 

[Rjay]

So i did an extensive, my doctors semi matched mine, I submitted both, and lost the appeal. So im gonna see my doctor and be like hey, you need to expand further on this and get really in detail more than you did on the previous one

that make sense, I guess she should demonstrate a letter of your diagnosis report and you should write a letter about your interest and what you did after depression got over I guess

 

[deuce90]

that make sense, I guess she should demonstrate a letter of your diagnosis report and you should write a letter about your interest and what you did after depression got over I guess

My personal letter is full detail

 

[Rjay]

My personal letter is full detail

Wow, I guess you need to do a assessment and test and then submit along with doctors demonstrated report but hey I’m also on same boat so will see and did they ask you to wait for 3 months before applying for your appeal?after medical rejected when did u apply for first appeal?

 

[deuce90]

Wow, I guess you need to do a assessment and test and then submit along with doctors demonstrated report but hey I’m also on same boat so will see and did they ask you to wait for 3 months before applying for your appeal?after medical rejected when did u apply for first appeal?

As soon as I got the letter i appealed

 

[Rjay]

As soon as I got the letter i appealed

Ok so I asked them and they said you need to wait for Atleast 4 months before applying for appeal

 

[deuce90]

Ok so I asked them and they said you need to wait for Atleast 4 months before applying for appeal

My CFRC told me i could do it as soon as I received the letter.

 

[Rjay]

My CFRC told me i could do it as soon as I received the letter.

Wow, well then try again I mean to me RMO office directly said this so I’m waiting for three more months and I will do an assessment and report on last month and will submit

 

[deuce90]

Wow, well then try again I mean to me RMO office directly said this so I’m waiting for three more months and I will do an assessment and report on last month and will submit

Well when I get this second letter from RMO im gonna go in and chat with him and be like okay I need you to tell me what the direct concern is so my doctor can give you what you need.

 

[deuce90]

Wow, well then try again I mean to me RMO office directly said this so I’m waiting for three more months and I will do an assessment and report on last month and will submit

But if i need to call a CFRC from a different city and talk to them about clarity, than I will

 

[Rjay]

But if i need to call a CFRC from a different city and talk to them about clarity, than I will

Well do that as I got mine clearly but update here whatever it is coz I’m in same boat like you

 

[da1root]

My personal letter is full detail

Your personal letter was not reviewed by the RMO, only documentation provided by your Doctor is reviewed by the RMO.

Well when I get this second letter from RMO im gonna go in and chat with him and be like okay I need you to tell me what the direct concern is so my doctor can give you what you need.

The RMO is not located at your CFRC, it is a Medical Officer in Ottawa - you do not have the ability to communicate directly with the RMO.

But if i need to call a CFRC from a different city and talk to them about clarity, than I will

Don't do this. Before they give you information on your file you'll have to give your personal details, the moment they try to pull you up it will show you belong to a different CFRC and they will refer you to your home CFRC.

Wow, well then try again I mean to me RMO office directly said this so I’m waiting for three more months and I will do an assessment and report on last month and will submit

You both have separate files with separate issues; just because deuce90 was able to appeal the decision immediately it was because it was based on a diagnosis from more than a year ago. When I've gathered from your posts, the reason for your rejection was based on something that happened within the last year - so you will have different wait times.

My honest advice: stop comparing files - if you've not noticed the underlying response to every medical question on this forum is "everyone's case is unique and will be reviewed on a case by case basis".

I'm also going to get on my soap box here for a minute because reading the dialogue between you two has actually gotten my back up. This conversation is coming across like the CAF / the RMO owes you something. Phoning around to find an answer you like is not an appropriate way of dealing with your situation, thinking that you're going to speak with the RMO directly is not going to happen either.

 

[Rjay]

Your personal letter was not reviewed by the RMO, only documentation provided by your Doctor is reviewed by the RMO.


The RMO is not located at your CFRC, it is a Medical Officer in Ottawa - you do not have the ability to communicate directly with the RMO.


Don't do this. Before they give you information on your file you'll have to give your personal details, the moment they try to pull you up it will show you belong to a different CFRC and they will refer you to your home CFRC.


You both have separate files with separate issues; just because deuce90 was able to appeal the decision immediately it was because it was based on a diagnosis from more than a year ago. When I've gathered from your posts, the reason for your rejection was based on something that happened within the last year - so you will have different wait times.

My honest advice: stop comparing files - if you've not noticed the underlying response to every medical question on this forum is "everyone's case is unique and will be reviewed on a case by case basis".

I'm also going to get on my soap box here for a minute because reading the dialogue between you two has actually gotten my back up. This conversation is coming across like the CAF / the RMO owes you something. Phoning around to find an answer you like is not an appropriate way of dealing with your situation, thinking that you're going to speak with the RMO directly is not going to happen

I don’t know what you saying but everyone has right to give opinion

 

[Readyplayer1]

Not really an opinion, more well known facts abt the process. At the end of the day though, the only opinion that matters is the RMOs and they given it to you, not once but twice. If I was you, I’d put more then just a year of time between when I last got treated to prove it’s not reoccurring, appeal again, and keep a plan B in my pocket. Everyone gets to apply, not everyone gets in

 

[deuce90]

Your personal letter was not reviewed by the RMO, only documentation provided by your Doctor is reviewed by the RMO.


The RMO is not located at your CFRC, it is a Medical Officer in Ottawa - you do not have the ability to communicate directly with the RMO.


Don't do this. Before they give you information on your file you'll have to give your personal details, the moment they try to pull you up it will show you belong to a different CFRC and they will refer you to your home CFRC.


You both have separate files with separate issues; just because deuce90 was able to appeal the decision immediately it was because it was based on a diagnosis from more than a year ago. When I've gathered from your posts, the reason for your rejection was based on something that happened within the last year - so you will have different wait times.

My honest advice: stop comparing files - if you've not noticed the underlying response to every medical question on this forum is "everyone's case is unique and will be reviewed on a case by case basis".

I'm also going to get on my soap box here for a minute because reading the dialogue between you two has actually gotten my back up. This conversation is coming across like the CAF / the RMO owes you something. Phoning around to find an answer you like is not an appropriate way of dealing with your situation, thinking that you're going to speak with the RMO directly is not going to happen either.

Oh I dont believe they owe me anything tbh, its the process, its how it goes, do I believe the system could use a change, yeah, thus leading to more succesful recruits and numbers go up, yeah, but again, it is what it is, it is a job,