Medical rejected

[Rjay]

Long story short, It took 2 years to get my top security clearance for NCS and three weeks ago they did medical. I was honest to the core I said I was frustrated due to Canadian job market and I did one counseling with my Family doctor along with that I said I am on anti biotic for chest infection and got mild tendinitis pain which improved with orthotics.To say I got rejection email as deemed unfit. I am devastated as my two year of dedication just been rejected for something I don’t even have and solely for my honesty. I haven’t received mail yet so how long it’s gonna take for the mail to reach home and once I submit my appeal how long it takes the RMO to take decision , I heard it’s 4 week and is that true

 

[brihard]

OK, but if you're currently on antibiotics for a chest infection, that's a pretty obvious 'no' at this time. I suggest trying to have further discussion with the recruiters to ascertain exactly what aspect of your medical history is the 'no go'... But I'd be willing to bet it's that. That may also mean that once any infection is cleared up, and once you've been assessed as completely good to go and healthy, they may be willing to give you the green light. But yeah, an active chest infection being treated with antibiotics is not something that that would be willing to take a chance on.

 

[Rjay]

OK, but if you're currently on antibiotics for a chest infection, that's a pretty obvious 'no' at this time. I suggest trying to have further discussion with the recruiters to ascertain exactly what aspect of your medical history is the 'no go'... But I'd be willing to bet it's that. That may also mean that once any infection is cleared up, and once you've been assessed as completely good to go and healthy, they may be willing to give you the green light. But yeah, an active chest infection being treated with antibiotics is not something that that would be willing to take a chance on.

Oh man I wish that’s the reason, I haven’t received the letter yet, I got rejection mail on Friday so how long you think I have to wait for letter or should I just talk to them before?technically my chest is fine and I am not on antibiotics now

 

[brihard]

No idea, sorry. I don’t know the process well.

 

[PuckChaser]

Couple weeks for your letter, months for an appeal decision once you provide all your evidence.

 

[Rjay]

It states in the email 40 days for the appeal decision but I am still waiting for the letter though , my RMO office is in Toronto

 

[PuckChaser]

My assumption is that your letter is going to tell you it was your reactive depression, not a chest cold or mild orthotics...

 

[Rjay]

My assumption is that your letter is going to tell you it was your reactive depression, not a chest cold or mild orthotics...

Hmm, is there anyway to know it early?, like I don’t even have a depression honestly I shouldn’t even told them that , it’s sad for my honesty, I guess everyone in Canada are sad and depressed

 

[PuckChaser]

Hmm, is there anyway to know it early?, like I don’t even have a depression honestly I shouldn’t even told them that , it’s sad for my honesty, I guess everyone in Canada are sad and depressed

The fact that you're upset you have integrity says to me you're not ready to deal with adversity and be a member of the CAF. You had to seek medical help because you were upset with your job, that's not a trivial matter. You need to develop some tools to deal with stress as I can guarantee you that the CAF will hit you with way more stress than that.

 

[Rjay]

That’s actually not true coz my reason for frustration was I wasn’t getting job for past 9 years as I am an immigrant it’s tough and I was so happy when I got my clearance and bang this happened but I appreciate your view

 

[Readyplayer1]

Long story short, It took 2 years to get my top security clearance for NCS and three weeks ago they did medical. I was honest to the core I said I was frustrated due to Canadian job market and I did one counseling with my Family doctor along with that I said I am on anti biotic for chest infection and got mild tendinitis pain which improved with orthotics.To say I got rejection email as deemed unfit. I am devastated as my two year of dedication just been rejected for something I don’t even have and solely for my honesty. I haven’t received mail yet so how long it’s gonna take for the mail to reach home and once I submit my appeal how long it takes the RMO to take decision , I heard it’s 4 week and is that true

Very little chance they make a decision on an appeal in 4 weeks. Letter will come in a few days- weeks and you’ll likely have to get into a specialist for documentation after which I’d suspect a 4-8 month wait. Appeals are the lowest priority of a already slammed medical department

 

[Rjay]

Very little chance they make a decision on an appeal in 4 weeks. Letter will come in a few days- weeks and you’ll likely have to get into a specialist for documentation after which I’d suspect a 4-8 month wait. Appeals are the lowest priority of a already slammed medical department

Aww that’s unfortunate, hopefully the Toronto is faster as i got email from Toronto office, all other process is completed and if I would have got my medical cleared I would have enlisted next month or so

 

[sarahsmom]

Aww that’s unfortunate, hopefully the Toronto is faster as i got email from Toronto office, all other process is completed and if I would have got my medical cleared I would have enlisted next month or so

Toronto has nothing to do with it. The letter will come from the RMO's office in Ottawa, although the physical letter may have a Borden return address. To ensure consistency and accuracy, there is only one RMO's office for all the recruiting centres. They've never met you in person, all they see is the medical file, so no personal feelings are involved.
Also, as a side note, there was still no guarantee you would have received an offer even if your medical had cleared. Offers are NOT guaranteed just for applying, same as any other job you apply for, and you could have been on the competition list for a long time without ever being selected.

 

[medicineman]

Aww that’s unfortunate, hopefully the Toronto is faster as i got email from Toronto office, all other process is completed and if I would have got my medical cleared I would have enlisted next month or so

Toronto has nothing to do with it. The letter will come from the RMO's office in Ottawa, although the physical letter may have a Borden return address. To ensure consistency and accuracy, there is only one RMO's office for all the recruiting centres. They've never met you in person, all they see is the medical file, so no personal feelings are involved.
Also, as a side note, there was still no guarantee you would have received an offer even if your medical had cleared. Offers are NOT guaranteed just for applying, same as any other job you apply for, and you could have been on the competition list for a long time without ever being selected.

THE (one and only) RMO and the (multiple) CFRC's are completely different animals.

 

[Rjay]

Thanks for all the information people, now it's my duty to prove I am perfectly well, not going to give up on this as it's my two years of dedication on this and for sake of other applications too.

 

[Rjay]

@PuckChaser you were right that was my rejection reason and they said you wait for 3 more months and do assessment then submit for appeal along with my new blood test

 

[Rjay]

@PuckChaser you were right that was my rejection reason and they said you wait for 3 more months and do assessment then submit for appeal along with my new blood test

@PuckChaser i need help, how do i proceed the appeal? basically even my doctor said you were just sad coz you weren't getting job and nothing else, so how do i prove on appeal? any suggestions

 

[PuckChaser]

@PuckChaser i need help, how do i proceed the appeal? basically even my doctor said you were just sad coz you weren't getting job and nothing else, so how do i prove on appeal? any suggestions

You need to prove this isn't a persistent issue that will happen again the next time you come up against demanding circumstances. If it was within the last year you had to seek help for depression they're likely going to want at least a year clear of any doctor visits relating to the issue. As to what the medical staff wants to see specifically, nobody here will know as those details are unique to your medical file and they're not going to tell you what to say to get in, as you'd just be able to lie.

 

[Rjay]

You need to prove this isn't a persistent issue that will happen again the next time you come up against demanding circumstances. If it was within the last year you had to seek help for depression they're likely going to want at least a year clear of any doctor visits relating to the issue. As to what the medical staff wants to see specifically, nobody here will know as those details are unique to your medical file and they're not going to tell you what to say to get in, as you'd just be able to lie

You need to prove this isn't a persistent issue that will happen again the next time you come up against demanding circumstances. If it was within the last year you had to seek help for depression they're likely going to want at least a year clear of any doctor visits relating to the issue. As to what the medical staff wants to see specifically, nobody here will know as those details are unique to your medical file and they're not going to tell you what to say to get in, as you'd just be able to lie.

I don’t have any history at all, just one day I decided just go n talk to my GP and relax n go home and this happened this past June but medical office said they will reconsider it after December

 

[Blackadder1916]

I don’t have any history at all, just one day I decided just go n talk to my GP and relax n go home and this happened this past June but medical office said they will reconsider it after December

As @PuckChaser said, no one here is going to tell you what to say, primarily because that would be a road map for you (or others) to game the system (IOW - to lie), but also because it's not what you say that matters but what your physician writes. Some docs are very accomplished at crafting third party reports (and if they know they have that skill, they usually are able to have a lucrative sideline to their practice) - I've worked for with a couple. I've also worked with a lot more who can (or will only?) barely scribble a line or two in response to a request for information. The RMO will be seeking the former rather than the latter.

All physicians are (or should be) familiar with their responsibilities in regard to third party reports. Some extracts from the CPSO's policies.

8. Physicians must understand and communicate the nature of their role to subjects they interact directly with, which includes that their role:

1. is to provide information and/or opinions for the third party or third party process and not to decide how the information and/or opinions will be used by the third party or the relevant decision-makers in the third party process;

14. Physicians must conduct IMEs and provide third party medical reports and testimony that are:

1. within their scope of practice and area of expertise;
2. comprehensive and relevant;
3. fair, objective, and non-partisan;
4. transparent, accurate, and clear; and
5. timely.

There is nothing wrong with requesting to see your doctor's comments before they are submitted, nor would it be improper to bring to her attention any concerns you may have about them being incomplete or inaccurate. However, don't expect any physician to change their report based on your hearsay, when your medical records don't substantiate your preferred version.