Medical officer specializations for advancement.

[medicineman]

can you give me any more info on MMTP? it sounds like an interesting path that I have not considered yet. are there any trades that are preferred for MMTP? is it easier to get into MMTP than it is to get into MMTP?

Usually have to be a Capt/Lt(N) and it doesn't really matter what classification you're from - you need the academic pre-reqs and reccomendations.

MM

 

[aesop081]

is it easier to get into MMTP than it is to get into MMTP?

Read that 5 times...........tell me whats wrong.........

 

[MedCorps]

What I can tell you is that is it HARD to get into MMTP.  Especially now that we have reasonable levels of GDMOs and are not in a crisis situation anymore.

I have seen many a junior officer who is well qualified from an academic, leadership, experience, and loyalty point of view not get accepted. All of these officers would have made excellent GDMOs in my opinion. I think this year in fact we only took four officers from across the entire Regular Force if that is any indication on how few MMTP spots we have. 

It is doable but it is a hard fight to get one of those spots.  That being said MOTP is also very competitive and at looking at the numbers to 2016 we have foretasted an equal number of MOTP and MMTP GDMOs being produced. I suspect (but do not know for sure) that this will continue to be the trend with a 50/50 intake split between the program with a goal of taking in 10 GDMOs per year.  In my opinion this is a good split and produces a well balanced and affordable MOSID.

DEOs are rare to see walk into a CFRC and will continue offset additional attrition beyond the 10 per year (likely) or offset the subsidized programs (less likely).  This could quickly change if we have more than the foretasted number of GDMOs release.

It is good times and once again we can take the best of the best who want to serve with the CF.

MC

 

[Tuna]

Read that 5 times...........tell me whats wrong.........

yes sorry, I was meaning to write MOTP on the second one

 

[Tuna]

What I can tell you is that is it HARD to get into MMTP.  Especially now that we have reasonable levels of GDMOs and are not in a crisis situation anymore.

I have seen many a junior officer who is well qualified from an academic, leadership, experience, and loyalty point of view not get accepted. All of these officers would have made excellent GDMOs in my opinion. I think this year in fact we only took four officers from across the entire Regular Force if that is any indication on how few MMTP spots we have. 

It is doable but it is a hard fight to get one of those spots.  That being said MOTP is also very competitive and at looking at the numbers to 2016 we have foretasted an equal number of MOTP and MMTP GDMOs being produced. I suspect (but do not know for sure) that this will continue to be the trend with a 50/50 intake split between the program with a goal of taking in 10 GDMOs per year.  In my opinion this is a good split and produces a well balanced and affordable MOSID.

DEOs are rare to see walk into a CFRC and will continue offset additional attrition beyond the 10 per year (likely) or offset the subsidized programs (less likely).  This could quickly change if we have more than the foretasted number of GDMOs release.

It is good times and once again we can take the best of the best who want to serve with the CF.

MC

and i take it from this that any almost any DEO can make it in more easily than MOTP/MMTP applicants?

 

[MedCorps]

I would suggest that this is correct. 

Why?

1. Well you have already proven that you can make it through medical school (MD) and get a license.  Therefore it is little risk to the CF that you will fail out of school part way through, be unable to pass your board exams at the end of school, or pass everything academically and after up to six years of pay and academic sponsorship and fail BOMQ, or the Basic Medical Officer Course.  All of these events have occurred before during my time in the CF.

2. It is considerably less expensive to recruit a DEO GDMO who is already qualified.

3. In an ideal world these MDs would already have some real world experience in family medicine, and even more ideally have emergency medicine / wilderness medicine / humanitarian medicine / aviation medicine / hospitalist, experience.  Experience counts compared to someone who is one day out of residency. Especially then said experience is at no cost to the Crown.

I could not foresee a situation where they would not take a DEO applicant who is suitable and meets the professional, academic, and service entry requirements. Even in the unlikely event that this means decreasing the 10 MOTP or MMTP spots.

MC

 

[catalyst]

Random question - but does age come into factor (via years of service remaining) for MMTP selection? ie - myself entering the RegF at 30.....do my initial years (say, 10), enter medical school at 40, graduate at 46 and then have 14 years til CRA....vice say, a young'un who applies at age 30 for MMTP?

 

[MedCorps]

As long as you have enough time left to pay back the obligatory service (2 months for each 1 month of training not to exceed 5 years) and can complete the terms of your current service (contract) you should be fine.

MC