Living at the RMC

[Gunner98]

Any idea as to where on their site i would find it?

Take a gander at the 'Joining Instructions - First Year Officer Cadets': http://www.rmc.ca/military/ji/ji_e.html
under the subtitle - Arrival at RMC - Arch Parade:

"You will then be marched off the square at approximately 3:00 p.m., under the care of senior OCdts to commence the First Year Orientation Program and the logistics of moving into your room."

Lumber - "you have to live on "campus" during your stay here at RMC."  Could you please clarify the accommodations policy for students in their final year?

 

[dwalter]

I want to apply at the RMC wheni graduate high school, but do I have to live on base?  ANd does anyone have anymore information on it, could they let me know?  It would be greatly appreciated......thank you!!!

If you are planning on attending RMC then you might also want to look into proofreading your work before pushing that tempting 'post' button. As a current university student I can assure you, professors do not smile when they see "In this critical analysis of PLatos republic i decided i wanted too examin teh relationship between the kalipolis and humanity."

Spot the mistakes, it pained me just to write them...  :

As for accommodations, you will be living on campus with all the other first year students. It helps build teamwork and esprit de corps.

 

[Lumber]

Lumber - "you have to live on "campus" during your stay here at RMC."  Could you please clarify the accommodations policy for students in their final year?

I'd be happy to Sir,

As of the 2009-2010 academic year, the ability of fourth year cadets to live off campus will have ceased. The 2008-2009 year (next year) will be the last year in which fourth year cadets will be able to do so, and the number of cadets permitted will be less than in previous years.

From what they have told us, the learning experiences that cadets living off undergo are trumped by the difficulties they face by being away from the rest of the college. Cadets have complained that, because of the live off program, they will not see their sections commanders of flight leaders for weeks at a time (other than a passing glance prior to parade, which is only once or twice a week).

In light of this and many other factors assessed during the "socialization" project (whose details cadets are not privy too, apparently this goes all the way up to a review board that includes Uncle Rick), they decided to end the live-off program, conveniently just one year before I would be eligible to live off. Darnit.

Cheers!

 

[Strike]

Maybe it had something to do with the second yrs not recognizing the CWC because he lived off base.  ;D

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Unfortunately, terribly, annoyingly, depressingly, frustratingly, aggravatingly and to the point, yes, you have to live on "campus" during your stay here at RMC.

Oh, the horror.  Does the Ombudsman know about this?  How about about the Canadian Human Rights Commission?  The next thing you know, you might have to wear a uniform and march and follow orders and stuff.... :

For the record, my time living at the College (admittedly it was RRMC, so it automatically, by definition, did not suck) is amongst the best that I have ever had in the Military.  I made friendships that have lasted over twenty years.  I learned leadership, how to get along with my fellow cadets, how to work as a team- and most importantly- I learned to live in a military environment, where timings and small details matter alot.

I would not have traded it for an apartment in town for any amount of money.  Thank the gods that this stupid social experiment that has been running for at least 10 years at RMC is apparently ending and they are getting back to the business of training young officers.

Lumber- you will thank the College later, once (if) you you ever get to a ship.

 

[DVessey]

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I would not have traded it for an apartment in town for any amount of money.  Thank the gods that this stupid social experiment that has been running for at least 10 years at RMC is apparently ending and they are getting back to the business of training young officers.
...

10 years? As far as I know it only just started last year and will end next year.

As a lab rat in this socialization experiment, I have to say I've enjoyed living off. It's definitely added a few challenges - ie/ biking to the college at 0630 in hail, being the first year CFL - but I didn't really expect RMC to be easy when I signed up. Has it taken away from my "RMC Experience"? I don't think so

 

[SupersonicMax]

10 years? As far as I know it only just started last year and will end next year.

As a lab rat in this socialization experiment, I have to say I've enjoyed living off. It's definitely added a few challenges - ie/ biking to the college at 0630 in hail, being the first year CFL - but I didn't really expect RMC to be easy when I signed up. Has it taken away from my "RMC Experience"? I don't think so

I lived out in 2005-2006 and some people live out the year before I did. This isn't new.  People that were common law/married/trying to get common law were permitted to live off base.  I actually enjoyed the living out life.  Got me to mature a little bit and got to manage personnal and professional life, which isn't always easy.

Max

 

[SupersonicMax]

I can't resist;

The fact that they called it a 'socialization project' just confirms, to me, everything that I've been saying about RMC over the past few years. I mean, come on.

Confirms what exactly?

 

[DVessey]

I lived out in 2005-2006 and some people live out the year before I did. This isn't new.  People that were common law/married/trying to get common law were permitted to live off base.  I actually enjoyed the living out life.  Got me to mature a little bit and got to manage personnal and professional life, which isn't always easy.

Max

my bad, forgot about the common law/married pers, although I don't believe that will be ending.

Piper: what does it confirm?

 

[Lumber]

...although I don't believe that will be ending.

Didn't the DCdts put a ban on getting married/going common-law while at RMC?

 

[DVessey]

Didn't the DCdts put a ban on getting married/going common-law while at RMC?

I haven't looked into this myself, so I can't confirm nor deny for sure. The last thing that was passed down that I remember about this was that the DCdts will be taking a much closer look at each case.

 

[SupersonicMax]

Didn't the DCdts put a ban on getting married/going common-law while at RMC?

I don,t think the CF can actually tell you "You won't get married".  Anyways this is the impression I got when I asked the question when I was there.

Max

 

[Edward Campbell]

A little off topic, but: A few decades ago officers were forbidden to marry until they were 25 years old (it was 21 for other ranks).

In that same period, an officer cadet (RMC) came into the Officer Training Company area looking for his course officer or, I guess, anyone who might help him with an emotional issue. A middle aged plus CFR admin officer (they were called either classified or specialist commissions waaaaay back then) invited the clearly worried cadet (Not me! I never went to the Charm School!) into his office for a chat.

"My girlfriend is pregnant," the cadet blubbered, "what can I do? My career is ruined! My dad will kill me! I'll be thrown out of RMC!" The admin officer considered this news, puffed on his pipe and said, "Well, son, look on the bright side: at least you now everything works."

 

[Old Sweat]

Edward, I think you could marry but could not draw marriage allowance until you reached the age of 23 for officers and 21 for other ranks. Officer cadets could not marry, whether at RMC or anywhere else and married soldiers could not be selected for officer training. It seems silly now, but that was the way it worked way back then.

 

[Edward Campbell]

Edward, I think you could marry but could not draw marriage allowance until you reached the age of 23 for officers and 21 for other ranks. Officer cadets could not marry, whether at RMC or anywhere else and married soldiers could not be selected for officer training. It seems silly now, but that was the way it worked way back then.

Are you sure about 23 vs. 25?

You are correct, of course, that one could not be forbidden to marry but marriage allowance was not payable untl age nn and, if I recall, the CO could deny permission to live out - another allowance thing.

Highjack! For the youngsters: We all used to get a base pay and rations and quarters were "free." Officers Members who were married, and over the requisite age, drew an additional allowance to help support a wife. Members who were permitted to live out of barracks drew yet another allowance.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

10 years? As far as I know it only just started last year and will end next year.

I should have been more clear- for the past 10 years or so, RMC has experimented with all manner of things including- cadets living out, shortened or non-existent recruit terms and reduced Cadet Wing leadership opportunities.  None of this, IMHO, has really contributed towards socializing RMC Officer Cadets into the military life style.  While I think daily standing room inspections, running circles every morning for really minor dress and drill infractions are things best left in past, other really useful things also got cut out in a drive to make RMC more "university-like" and less "military institution like".

Anyway, I had no intention of turning this into yet another "milcol was way tougher in my day" thread...

 

[yolotuber]

Hello all, im wondering if there is any place someone talk about his experience at rmc as a blog or anything , im going there and I would like to see in depth how is it there .


Thank you all!

 

[BeyondTheNow]

Hello all, im wondering if there is any place someone talk about his experience at rmc as a blog or anything , im going there and I would like to see in depth how is it there .


Thank you all!

I haven’t searched for blogs, but type in Royal Military College in YouTube and there’s a ton of results showcasing life at RMC and what to expect.  Type RMC in the search bar here, skim through results and you’ll find more personal accounts of people’s time there. I’d assume you’ll probably get a few hits through Google also.