Joseph Kony 2012

[RHFC_piper]

You can start with"you cant go in and kill anyone"

I thought the classic line was; "we put a man on the moon..."

 

[ballz]

Interesting rebuttal to the Visible Children blog... there's way too much to quote; just watch and be amazed.
I'm pretty sure this guy has no idea how conflicts actually work...

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8431706/kony-2012-filmmakers-respond-to-criticism

Holy curse words. That's gold.

 

[PJGary]

I thought the classic line was; "we put a man on the moon..."

"We put cream inside a doughnut, many many years ago... CREAM... inside a DOUGHNUT!"

Yay relevance!

 

[Hewitt]

Here is Invisible Children`s response to all the criticism against them. http://s3.amazonaws.com/www.invisiblechildren.com/critiques.html

 

[vonGarvin]

If you ever wanted to know what ad hominem looks like, here it is:

A Tumblr blog has pointed out that rather than dedicating their efforts towards on-the-ground charity work in Uganda, Invisible Children spends the bulk of donations on awareness campaigns and operating expenses, mostly in the US.
"That critic is a high school student in Canada," Mr Russell told TODAY.

Mr.  Russell says nothing about the accusation.  Instead, he wishes to make people give it less credence due to the age of the person saying it.

Hypocrite, much, Mr. Russell?:

We don't like war — we want to end war. I'm a pacifist at heart," he said.
"This is going to take a strategic force of last resort to go in and capture him."

I'm fairly certain that Mr. Russell realizes that if someone such as Mr. Kony doesn't want to get captured, then it would take "war-like efforts" to go in and get him, right?

"We put cream inside a doughnut, many many years ago... CREAM... inside a DOUGHNUT!"

Yay relevance!

Best.  Post.  EVER!  (well, at least in this thread)  ;D

 

[The Bread Guy]

 

[jollyjacktar]

Interesting rebuttal to the Visible Children blog... there's way too much to quote; just watch and be amazed.
I'm pretty sure this guy has no idea how conflicts actually work...

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8431706/kony-2012-filmmakers-respond-to-criticism

I did not know there was such a thing as a "valley boy" accent.  I was waiting for him to squeal "OMG".  :nod:

 

[KanD]

Two interesting reads on the subject matter at hand (and the associated #KONY2012 campaign):
1. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/reality-check-with-polly-curtis/2012/mar/08/kony-2012-what-s-the-story?newsfeed=true

2. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17306118

 

[The Bread Guy]

And how did the video play to Ugandans watching it?  Not as well as the producers might have hoped - highlights mine.....

.... A local charity, the African Youth Initiative Network, thought that the communities worst affected by the LRA, when it operated in Uganda, also deserved an opportunity to see what all the fuss was about, and so organized the event.

It was heavily publicized on local radio stations, and a crowd of thousands turned up at the Mayor’s Gardens in the centre of Lira for the sunset screening.

Having heard so many great things about the film, the crowd’s expectations were high.

Angry and offended

People I spoke to anticipated seeing a video that showed the world the terrible atrocities that they had suffered during the conflict, and the ongoing struggles they still face trying to rebuild their lives after two lost decades.

The audience was at first puzzled to see the narrative lead by an American man – Jason Russell – and his young son.

Towards the end of the film, the mood turned more to anger at what many people saw as a foreign, inaccurate account that belittled and commercialised their suffering, as the film promotes Kony bracelets and other fundraising merchandise, with the aim of making Kony infamous.

One woman I spoke to made the comparison of selling Osama Bin Laden paraphernalia post 9/11 – likely to be highly offensive to many Americans, however well intentioned the campaign behind it.

The event ended with the angrier members of the audience throwing rocks and shouting abusive criticism, as the rest fled for safety, leaving an abandoned projector, with organisers and the press running for cover until the dust settled.

It seems that the while the film has a viral power never seen before in the online community, it did not go down nearly so well with the very people it claims it is meant to help ....

Al Jazeera English, 14 Mar 12

 

[Wookilar]

"It seems that the while the film has a viral power never seen before in the online community..."

Really? I'm pretty sure the dancing baby beat it.

Just like the OWS, this internet-fueled rage will only last as long as their collective attention span.

Wook

 

[ballz]

Just like the OWS, this internet-fueled rage will only last as long as their collective attention span.

Last week I got some flak from the newly born social activists for criticizing this "movement," and most of the people of the people sharing the video.

They have all already forgotten all about the Kony thing this week...

 

[vonGarvin]

 

[The Bread Guy]

Action Figure Therapy has its own, NSFW take on this as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7NRCkxivwo&feature=g-all-u&context=G22a43b0FAAAAAAAACAA

An excerpt:  "Which is it, treehuggers?  Is the U.S. military this big bad scary thing that needs to be shut down and replaced with the Ministry of Hugs and Sunshine, or do you realize that a strong military is necessary to keep dips**ts like this Kony guy from pulling bulls**t like mass murder and child slavery all over the world?  You can't have it both ways."

Gold, Jerry, gold!

 

[Cui]

Didn't they say that Obama only signed the bill to capture Kony only this year?

He's running for re-election this year, and most of the people involved in the Kony movement are in their late teens and early 20s, who will be voting for the first time this year.

Seems legit.

 

[Pieman]

Wait everyone, what about that Kony guy?? You know, everyone was going to save the child soldier from war n' rape n' stuff?.....Well, that lasted a good 72 hours.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Just spotted this - an MP even got in on the action in the House yesterday:

Mr. Jim Hillyer (Lethbridge, CPC):  Mr. Speaker, on Monday the students of Chinook High School joined their voices with thousands across the country and around the world to condemn the heinous war criminal, Joseph Kony. Kony and his LRA fighters regularly rape and pillage and mutilate and massacre civilian populations in central Africa. They kidnap children to force girls to be sex slaves and boys to kill their own parents and mutilate their friends, as child soldiers.

    These students are shocked and appalled at these atrocities. I am inspired that they have responded with this spirit of optimism, convinced that their resolve to make a difference will make a difference. One student said, “I saw my peers... inspired and full of empathy and passion. I saw hope that justice would be served and the innate goodness of humankind would prevail”.

    Their hope is not in vain. Canada will continue to support and contribute to the international community's resolve to stop the LRA, save the child soldiers and bring Joseph Kony to justice.

 

[Thompson_JM]

Oh but wait....

There's More!!!

(I hate posting anything from the Toronto Star... because I hate the Toronto Star.... but this is at least a good story...)

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1147729--kony-2012-co-founder-of-stop-kony-movement-arrested-for-lewd-behaviour-reports?bn=1

Kony 2012: Man behind Stop Kony movement arrested for lewd behaviour: Reports

Jason Russell, one of the founders of Invisible Children and the man behind the “Kony 2012” viral video campaign was detained by police Thursday for lewd behaviour, according to MSNBC and TMZ.... ***MORE ON LINK***

 

[aesop081]

Didn't they say that Obama only signed the bill to capture Kony only this year?

The US started sending SF teams to help deal with Kony and the LRA in October of 2011.

 

[jollyjacktar]

And another story, far more entertaining, this side of the guy.  He came off on TV as rather full of himself when I saw him interviewed earlier. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2116184/Kony-2012-video-director-arrested-drunk-performing-sex-act-public.html  Photo's too.  :

 

[The Bread Guy]

Easy to click, not so easy to show up?

The activist organization that set a record last month with 100 million views in six days for its Kony 2012 viral video struggled to turn that burst of digital enthusiasm into concrete action, with few supporters answering the call to plaster their cities with demands to bring long-time Ugandan warlord Joseph Kony to justice.

The keen initial interest fizzled into a lacklustre action in Canada and elsewhere around the world for the appeal to “cover the night” this weekend, undone by a backlash against the Invisible Children activist group behind the appeal, the sensational meltdown of its co-founder, and the sense that Kony 2012 was a fad that had passed.

More than 30,000 people on various Facebook groups in Toronto said they intended to attend a Kony 2012 gathering Friday night in Dundas Square, but by early Saturday morning, there remained little more than a few dozen posters and the remnants of others.

“Seriously, anyone know what happened to KONY 2012?” one Twitter user in Toronto posted. “I thought something BIG was supposed to happen tonight?”

The organizer of a Montreal Facebook group with more than 400 participants cancelled the event due to the campaign’s negative publicity in the weeks after the video was released. The event’s message reads: “Due to many rumours and news reports about Kony 2012 being a fraudulous [sic] organization. I am going to cancel the event.”

Close to 30,000 people in total had pledged on Facebook to attend gatherings in Edmonton, Calgary, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Montreal, Halifax, Charlottetown and Yellowknife, but turnout was far smaller. The 21,000 members of one Vancouver Facebook group were to meet at the Art Gallery or at the Olympic Cauldron. But local media reported that both locations were quiet, with only a few posters seen downtown.

“Did what I could...had a bit of a tough time seeing the rest of the 21,000 though,” Scott Werdal of Vancouver commented on Facebook ....

Globe & Mail, 21 Apr 12