IGA said:I'm not sure of the pilots name, but coming in to the training late, and doing as well as he is doing is very impressive.
Steel Horse said:it is my unexperienced opinion.
SupersonicMax said:Correct me if I'm wrong, but they can't wear this one can they? I always thought the F/A-18 XXXX hours patches were giveng by Boeing.
Max
SupersonicMax said:Correct me if I'm wrong, but they can't wear this one can they? I always thought the F/A-18 XXXX hours patches were giveng by Boeing.
Max
CDN Aviator said::
Another Microsoft pilot has spoken
Steel Horse, when I did my G course, we were told at the beginning that it IS NOT an elimination course. This is an exposure only. You just have to pass it eventually.Steel Horse said:I really take offense to this, because I don't play flight simulators.
I was looking to come from the viewpoint of a taxpayer. You have to understand that the way I see it, is that at some point, somebody has the tough job of saying, yeah time to cut our losses.
What I am trying to get out of this, and the way the show brings it across to me, is that there are different standards for different people.
As in the instructors are like, ""ah shucks, he is a nice guy, he has wanted to be a pilot all his life. Let's give him another shot."
At some point the CF has to be accountable, to me the taxpayer, that they are going to cut their losses.
Maybe it comes from the fact that I worked with a company that spent tens of thousands training new employees, and if at a certain point they felt someone was behind in training, or was inadequate in anyway, then they would send them packing. Sure they might work out in the future. As is the case with Capt. Lewis, but how many times are they going to send him back to the centrifuge, 10, 20...100 times? When is enough, enough?
There has to be a standard for everybody, no matter their sex, gender, age, race, etc....
when there comes that time to part ways.
It is a simple question that every taxpayer deserves to have answered.
Again, I reiterate, this is the way the show brings it across to me. So I am looking for a sensible answer.
Steel Horse said:I am paraphrasing, but they did say something on the show to the affect of she almost killed 3 people. Any job where I have worked before, if I almost killed 3 people, I probably would have my *** canned so fast that it would be unreal.
SupersonicMax said:Steel Horse, when I did my G course, we were told at the beginning that it IS NOT an elimination course. This is an exposure only. You just have to pass it eventually.
Max
Steel Horse said:Okay, from the way the show puts it, it is an elimination course.
Steel Horse said:I really take offense to this, because I don't play flight simulators.
I was looking to come from the viewpoint of a taxpayer. You have to understand that the way I see it, is that at some point, somebody has the tough job of saying, yeah time to cut our losses.
What I am trying to get out of this, and the way the show brings it across to me, is that there are different standards for different people.
As in the instructors are like, ""ah shucks, he is a nice guy, he has wanted to be a pilot all his life. Let's give him another shot."
At some point the CF has to be accountable, to me the taxpayer, that they are going to cut their losses.
Maybe it comes from the fact that I worked with a company that spent tens of thousands training new employees, and if at a certain point they felt someone was behind in training, or was inadequate in anyway, then they would send them packing. Sure they might work out in the future. As is the case with Capt. Lewis, but how many times are they going to send him back to the centrifuge, 10, 20...100 times? When is enough, enough?
There has to be a standard for everybody, no matter their sex, gender, age, race, etc....
when there comes that time to part ways.
It is a simple question that every taxpayer deserves to have answered.
SupersonicMax said:I find the show puts a lot of thing not like they really are.
Max
CDN Aviator said:I guess you couldnt figure out what i meant.
CDN Aviator said:Millions of dollars already went into training this guy. Is another 1500 bucks realy going to kill the taxpayer ? Or is that small amount going to save a few millions ? Or did you just miss the part where he was taken off the course after the 3rd attempt ?
Again, you must have been sleeping when they cut him from the course after the 3rd try.
CDN Aviator said:The CF, in this case is not dealing with "tens of thousands" bit with millions of dollars. You are comparing apples to oranges. This guy was already a qualified pilot and spent time as a flight instructor. he more than gave back to the taxpayer for their investment in him.
There is a standard and it was applied. You saw it for yourself. Stop trying to see a problem where there isnt one.
Steel Horse said:Yes, millions of dollars have been spent, but what I am saying is they let him stay around at the squadron until he can attempt the centrifuge again. Why not put him on multi-engine?
Steel Horse said:I am not saying throw him out of the military. What I am saying is he is a qualified pilot. Why not have him flying hercs or something?
Quote from: volition on January 16, 2008, 08:12:40
Another cool show yesterday!! Too bad about the guy that called it quits...What happens to him, does he leave the military, or does he gets qualified on another aircraft?
He's in Portage now on the multi course.
CougarDaddy said:Umm...it was stated earlier in the thread that he is now on the multi course.
Inch said:Different guy, Coffin is on the Multi course bound for CC177s. They're talking about Lewis who eventually passed the Hornet OTU.
SupersonicMax said:Steel Horse, when I did my G course, we were told at the beginning that it IS NOT an elimination course. This is an exposure only. You just have to pass it eventually.
Max
CDN Aviator said:He had , in the estimation of the instructors ( from what i saw) good potential as a fast jet guy. He was doing well up to that point in the course. The guy has lots of jet time already. The fighter comunity is short people and could use people with experience. The only hurdle was the centifuge. Why not keep the guy where he is until the problem is rectified. The fact that he eventualy passed the FPC proves that the sytem works and that the right thing was done.