In a NEO there are points where people gather - they get themselves to those points. They get screened etc before moving to where they will be evacuated from.
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I'm not asking you to invest in anything. I am asking the government to invest in a capacity that will serve the civilian economy in peace and also be available to pull the fat from the fire when and if. It would also be available for charter for exercises and operations.
Personally I would sooner trust Canadian assets to a Canadian contract rather than rely on the good auspices of Cypriot, Panamanian, Ukrainian or even American commercial interests.
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G-T-S Katie standoff ends
CBC News · Posted: Aug 03, 2000 6:36 AM ET | Last Updated: August 3, 2000
Canada's navy has boarded G-T-S Katie and two destroyers are now escorting the ship to port.
The Navy landed 14 Canadian soldiers on the vessel by helicopter.
The captain of the ship claimed his vessel was under attack.
Defence Minister Art Eggleton says there was no attack, the boarding went without incident and all Canadian personnel are safe. Eggleton says Canada has "stayed fully within the bounds of international law".
The small convoy is expected to arrive in Quebec on Sunday.
The American cargo ship is carrying $200 million worth of military equipment back from Kosovo, equipment used by Canadian peace-keepers in the Yugoslav province. It also had three Canadian military personnel returning from Kosovo.
The owners of the ship were refusing to bring it into port until a dispute over money owed was settled with the company contracted by the military to transport the equipment. Both sides are claiming the other side is not living up to their contract.
G-T-S Katie was supposed to have docked in Montreal a couple of weeks ago. But the cargo vessel anchored off the coast of Newfoundland about 160 kilometres off the Avalon Peninsula just outside Canadian territorial waters.
The two warships escorting the vessel are HMCS Athabaskan and HMCS Montreal.
Is it really right to suggest that we have a viable plan and structures in place that should give us the necessary sense of comfort?
This is NOT proposed as a DND budget item. This is and OGD/Private industry item which could be used to benefit the Government, including its DND.
Perhaps trapped in the Baltics if Putin decides to gamble it all? Maybe if the SCS goes hot and it plays out like 1942 in the Pacific where nearly every island is overrun? Near impossible but I just wanted to give some examples.
If Russia overruns the Baltics we certainly won't be sending any transport ships...military or commercial into the Baltic State ports to pull out our troops. And unless we by some miracle suddenly get a Marine Corps with all the offensive, opposed landing tools that would go with that we won't be landing any mechanized troops on the islands of the South China Seas.
No. But we might want to land a brigade or two in Bremen or Antwerp or Le Havre or Brest or even Bilbao and move north and make the line in the sand in Poland, or wherever, stronger.
I agree 100% that we need a plan and to practice it. I just don't think that subsidizing new ships is worth the cost vs taking up civilian ships when required. I imagine you could buy a lot of Javelin missiles or whatever for the cost of a pair of Ro-Ro ships on each coast.No. But we might want to land a brigade or two in Bremen or Antwerp or Le Havre or Brest or even Bilbao and move north and make the line in the sand in Poland, or wherever, stronger.
I personally don't care if we have RCN ships or ones picked up from trade or some other structure. All I care about is that a) there's a plan and b) we exercise it at reasonable intervals.
My guess is that you are right considering we would only need one or two for a few months every few years or so. The only problem is ensuring a system whereby the ships are guaranteed when required which might require some legislation, some cash on a stand-by basis and perhaps crews trained to operate the ships if the crew balks. - Nothing to worry about except if you don't plan for it and have contingency plans in place. Something we're not to good with as far as I know.
CAST Redivivus.My guess is that you are right considering we would only need one or two for a few months every few years or so. The only problem is ensuring a system whereby the ships are guaranteed when required which might require some legislation, some cash on a stand-by basis and perhaps crews trained to operate the ships if the crew balks. - Nothing to worry about except if you don't plan for it and have contingency plans in place. Something we're not to good with as far as I know.
What about that annual exercise I thought they started in Norway a few years ago. Trident Juncture?My guess is that you are right considering we would only need one or two for a few months every few years or so. The only problem is ensuring a system whereby the ships are guaranteed when required which might require some legislation, some cash on a stand-by basis and perhaps crews trained to operate the ships if the crew balks. - Nothing to worry about except if you don't plan for it and have contingency plans in place. Something we're not to good with as far as I know.
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We done a couple of Trident Junctures. TRJE 18 involved us moving a Bde HQ, an infantry battalion and associated supports along with the ATF and national command/support elements into Norway. It was good to do it live and also as part of a large movement of troops (7 brigades flowing in), but it was also very expensive. I believe the TRJE livex series has been morphed into something less intensive (I’ve changed jobs since 2018).
Trains are “super fun”.Good stuff! I assume that 'trains' were involved at one point?
It's not a real logistics test of a formation level landing unless it involves train networks, of course
