High Ranking Police Folk Allegedly Behaving Badly

[CBH99]

Compromised cop... drug dealers walk...

Charges stayed in massive drug case marred by Victoria police misconduct

Drug charges have been stayed against three men who Victoria’s police chief once described as being “at the top of the fentanyl trafficking pyramid in British Columbia.” The investigation that led to their arrest and a $30-million seizure of drugs, guns and cash is stained by police misconduct.

vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca

Enforcing drug laws in BC always leaves me feeling confused...

We have a provincial government that seems fully committed to supplying safe illegal drugs to addicts, flooding the streets with even more drugs than already exist.

The government is so committed to supplying safe drugs to its citizens that it's entertaining a recent report that recommends it starts to distribute fentynal & heroine as part of its menu options...so how this same government expects law enforcement to enforce drug laws is beyond my comprehension



How can we expect law enforcement to have a positive impact on the community & do its best to rid a community of drugs, when the government itself aims to be the main party distributing those drugs?

I don't know enough detail about this particular case, re 3 men charged in fentynal trafficking case...

But I reckon its going to be hard for the government to target and prosecute individuals for drug trafficking on the one hand, if on the other hand those individuals are trafficking the same drugs the government itself is distributing for free...

 

[daftandbarmy]

Enforcing drug laws in BC always leaves me feeling confused...

We have a provincial government that seems fully committed to supplying safe illegal drugs to addicts, flooding the streets with even more drugs than already exist.

The government is so committed to supplying safe drugs to its citizens that it's entertaining a recent report that recommends it starts to distribute fentynal & heroine as part of its menu options...so how this same government expects law enforcement to enforce drug laws is beyond my comprehension



How can we expect law enforcement to have a positive impact on the community & do its best to rid a community of drugs, when the government itself aims to be the main party distributing those drugs?

I don't know enough detail about this particular case, re 3 men charged in fentynal trafficking case...

But I reckon its going to be hard for the government to target and prosecute individuals for drug trafficking on the one hand, if on the other hand those individuals are trafficking the same drugs the government itself is distributing for free...

More excitement...

Former police board member files complaint against Victoria police over drug prosecution collapse

Paul Schachter says the department should be investigated for how it may have contributed to the collapse of a major drug prosecution.

www.timescolonist.com

 

[Haggis]

Enforcing drug laws in BC always leaves me feeling confused...

We have a provincial government that seems fully committed to supplying safe illegal drugs to addicts, flooding the streets with even more drugs than already exist.

The government is so committed to supplying safe drugs to its citizens that it's entertaining a recent report that recommends it starts to distribute fentynal & heroine as part of its menu options...so how this same government expects law enforcement to enforce drug laws is beyond my comprehension



How can we expect law enforcement to have a positive impact on the community & do its best to rid a community of drugs, when the government itself aims to be the main party distributing those drugs?

I don't know enough detail about this particular case, re 3 men charged in fentynal trafficking case...

But I reckon its going to be hard for the government to target and prosecute individuals for drug trafficking on the one hand, if on the other hand those individuals are trafficking the same drugs the government itself is distributing for free...

If you think it's bad now, wait until Trudeau's decriminalization promises for the next election. Cannabis got him a majority. Decriminalization of personal use amounts of meth, cocaine and heroin will get him crowned king for life.

 

[OldSolduer]

If you think it's bad now, wait until Trudeau's decriminalization promises for the next election. Cannabis got him a majority. Decriminalization of personal use amounts of meth, cocaine and heroin will get him crowned king for life.

And if the legalization etc goes a badly as the weed legalization did we will still be subject to methheads either coming down from their highs. THey are dangerous.

 

[brihard]

If you think it's bad now, wait until Trudeau's decriminalization promises for the next election. Cannabis got him a majority. Decriminalization of personal use amounts of meth, cocaine and heroin will get him crowned king for life.

That’s quite a claim. What ridings do you think decriminalizing Schedule 1 CDSA for personal use would flip?

 

[OldSolduer]

That’s quite a claim. What ridings do you think decriminalizing Schedule 1 CDSA for personal use would flip?

Somehow I don't think hard core drug addicts vote....and I don't think the average Canadian would accept this.

 

[Haggis]

That’s quite a claim. What ridings do you think decriminalizing Schedule 1 CDSA for personal use would flip?

Okay, I'm recuperating from surgery, and maybe not firing on all cylinders and being a bit facetious here as a result, but "legalizing" cannabis was a significant contributor to his 2015 election win. An election promise, no matter how sensible or outlandish, need not be kept after you win. Decriminalization of some Schedule 1 substances has been brought up before by both Teams Red and Orange.

To answer your question, probably not many, as the most drug afflicted ridings are already red. My comment, though, was more aimed at the increased policing challenges associated with more legalization/decriminalization.

Somehow I don't think hard core drug addicts vote....and I don't think the average Canadian would accept this.

Casual users and dealers vote. I'll concede that cannabis is a different drug, but he sold it well and he garnered a lot of the 18 to 40 year old vote in 2015. Then, he then went on to legislate the crap out of it, so it's not truly "legalized".

 

[brihard]

Okay, I'm recuperating from surgery, and maybe not firing on all cylinders and being a bit facetious here as a result, but "legalizing" cannabis was a significant contributor to his 2015 election win. An election promise, no matter how sensible or outlandish, need not be kept after you win. Decriminalization of some Schedule 1 substances has been brought up before by both Teams Red and Orange.

To answer your question, probably not many, as the most drug afflicted ridings are already red. My comment, though, was more aimed at the increased policing challenges associated with more legalization/decriminalization.

Casual users and dealers vote. I'll concede that cannabis is a different drug, but he sold it well and he garnered a lot of the 18 to 40 year old vote in 2015. Then, he then went on to legislate the crap out of it, so it's not truly "legalized".

Yeah, but really cannabis is little different from alcohol- and frankly, IMHO, and never having touched the stuff, and as Instand here sipping a beer, much less dangerous and destructive to individuals and to society than alcohol (or, I think, tobacco). Legalizing cannabis was a sensible policy platform that reversed decades of failed prohibition that made little objective sense.

I think we can all see the huge difference between that and the Schedule I drugs.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Somehow I don't think hard core drug addicts vote.

Doctors, judges, school bus drivers come to mind.

 

[Jarnhamar]

If you think it's bad now, wait until Trudeau's decriminalization promises for the next election. Cannabis got him a majority. Decriminalization of personal use amounts of meth, cocaine and heroin will get him crowned king for life.

Aren't we already there?

Adam Zivo: B.C. plans to give 'safer supply' fentanyl to minors. And parents won't have a say​

No minimum age listed in protocols for providing youth with taxpayer-funded recreational fentanyl

Adam Zivo: B.C. plans to give 'safer supply' fentanyl to minors. And parents won't have a say

 

[brihard]

Doctors, judges, school bus drivers come to mind.

 

[Haggis]

I think we can all see the huge difference between that and the Schedule I drugs.

I haven't had a beer in weeks. Can't afford to get even the least bit wobbly and risk a fall (long overdue total knee replacement).

I'd rather deal with a stoner than a drunk. Use doritos instead of OC.

The legalization of cannabis was oversold IMO, and the impacts of the legislative framework weren't articulated in the 2015 campaign. If the Grits take the approach of "bringing drug abuse out of the shadows to reduce the criminal involvement", which was one of their selling points for cannabis, some voters will likely buy it.

We've gotten a bit off topic, in true Army.ca fashion.

 

[brihard]

I haven't had a beer in weeks. Can't afford to get even the least bit wobbly and risk a fall (long overdue total knee replacement).

I'd rather deal with a stoner than a drunk. Use doritos instead of OC.

The legalization of cannabis was oversold IMO, and the impacts of the legislative framework weren't articulated in the 2015 campaign. If the Grits take the approach of "bringing drug abuse out of the shadows to reduce the criminal involvement", which was one of their selling points for cannabis, some voters will likely buy it.

We've gotten a bit off topic, in true Army.ca fashion.

Something something dress regs

 

[CBH99]

If you think it's bad now, wait until Trudeau's decriminalization promises for the next election. Cannabis got him a majority. Decriminalization of personal use amounts of meth, cocaine and heroin will get him crowned king for life.

I wanna say "I don't know...I think even the druggies hate him as much as the rest of us do at this point"...

But you're probably right. I respectfully hope you're wrong lol but I don't think you are



Looking at how well the California experiment is going, and on a smaller scale the BC experiment - why anybody would want to emulate those conditions elsewhere is either stupid, or evil, or both.

 

[CBH99]

Aren't we already there?

Adam Zivo: B.C. plans to give 'safer supply' fentanyl to minors. And parents won't have a say​

No minimum age listed in protocols for providing youth with taxpayer-funded recreational fentanyl

Adam Zivo: B.C. plans to give 'safer supply' fentanyl to minors. And parents won't have a say

I was just about to post this very article, ya beat me to it

Soooooo...yes! This!


I won't beat on my usual dead horse & I'll even let it be for a while, I don't think there's anybody here who still doesn't see what's happening here, and happening quite deliberately

Anybody who wants to give your kids recreational fentynal & keep it a secret from mom and dad is NOT looking out for their best interests...

 

[dapaterson]

I was just about to post this very article, ya beat me to it

Soooooo...yes! This!


I won't beat on my usual dead horse & I'll even let it be for a while, I don't think there's anybody here who still doesn't see what's happening here, and happening quite deliberately

Anybody who wants to give your kids recreational fentynal & keep it a secret from mom and dad is NOT looking out for their best interests...

You're right. Far better to let kids buy drugs and die from overdoses.

 

[OldSolduer]

Fentanyl is deadly and therefore shouldn’t be used by anyone recreationally . Period.

 

[Remius]

I was just about to post this very article, ya beat me to it

Soooooo...yes! This!


I won't beat on my usual dead horse & I'll even let it be for a while, I don't think there's anybody here who still doesn't see what's happening here, and happening quite deliberately

Anybody who wants to give your kids recreational fentynal & keep it a secret from mom and dad is NOT looking out for their best interests...

Where are they stating that this is for recreational use?

 

[OldSolduer]

Where are they stating that this is for recreational use?

IF you’re giving away fentanyl it’s not to manage pain or tranquilize someone. It’s deadly and needs to be tightly controlled

 

[dapaterson]

Fentanyl is deadly and therefore shouldn’t be used by anyone recreationally . Period.

Harm reduction isn't a standalone. But if we aren't willing to invest in other resources for recovery, it's a bare minimum.