George Wallace
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Actually, the guy who was fired from Ontario Hydro came and 'inserted' himself into the interview the reporter was having with the original 'offender'.
Harrasment in public..Hydro One fires "jerk" for reporter prank
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George Wallace said:
Saying you find something funny is not harassment George, linking the two together is a pretty weak argument. Also, your argument that he "inserted" himself into a conversation when she approached the group is a pretty weak argument to make. Again, this is why we aren't lawyers.
The police decided not to charge anyone. Can we put this to rest and just say it's not harassment because if it was they would have charged someone.
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Sometimes you're on the right side of the law but the wrong side of public opinion, that's why lawyers and police are so unpopular nowadays.
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Millhaven test likely to be ‘influential’ moving forward
An Ontario arbitrator’s recent move to expand the reach of employee off-duty conduct by extending a branch of a well-known legal test for justifying termination represents an inevitable step forward – but one that must be taken with caution, says Toronto employment lawyer Arthur Zeilikman.
http://www.advocatedaily.com/millhaven-test-likely-to-be-influential-moving-forward.html
A lot has to do with what line of work you are in. Some occupations are held to higher standards of off-duty conduct than others.
eg: The City of Toronto would likely hold a Paramedic to a higher standard of off-duty conduct than a Refuse Crane Operator or Welder. Same employer, but different responsibilities to the public.
An Ontario arbitrator’s recent move to expand the reach of employee off-duty conduct by extending a branch of a well-known legal test for justifying termination represents an inevitable step forward – but one that must be taken with caution, says Toronto employment lawyer Arthur Zeilikman.
http://www.advocatedaily.com/millhaven-test-likely-to-be-influential-moving-forward.html
A lot has to do with what line of work you are in. Some occupations are held to higher standards of off-duty conduct than others.
eg: The City of Toronto would likely hold a Paramedic to a higher standard of off-duty conduct than a Refuse Crane Operator or Welder. Same employer, but different responsibilities to the public.
George Wallace
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Jarnhamar said:
Harassed or Humiliated? These guys were stupid enough to do something immature and stupid "on film" to be distributed to and remembered by many on a wide variety of media.
"If you wouldn't say it/do it in front of your mother, don't say it/do it in front of a camera."
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- Having retired from the military and worked for two civilian companies since then, I have observed the following:
1. Drug/alcohol/DNA testing works.
2. Companies will let a person go if they hazard the bottom line for any reason.
3. A qualification is only as useful as the personality that holds it. An inability to apply a professional qualification using logic, common sense and good judgement renders that qualification useless. Any sign of a malignancy in personality or character is a red flag.
4. Contrary to all of the moaning and dripping of associations, co-workers are seldom sorry to see the idiot go.
As I loved to say back when I was in: "One of the best things you can do for a good soldier is to get rid of a bad one."
1. Drug/alcohol/DNA testing works.
2. Companies will let a person go if they hazard the bottom line for any reason.
3. A qualification is only as useful as the personality that holds it. An inability to apply a professional qualification using logic, common sense and good judgement renders that qualification useless. Any sign of a malignancy in personality or character is a red flag.
4. Contrary to all of the moaning and dripping of associations, co-workers are seldom sorry to see the idiot go.
As I loved to say back when I was in: "One of the best things you can do for a good soldier is to get rid of a bad one."
- Oh, and I think the reporter and her cameraman should find his mom. maybe bring a first aid kit in case she actually is 'dying of laughter.
- Perhaps she is. If the reporter asks her "Is that how you raised your son?" and the answer is not in the negative, we may have another case of: The apple does not fall far from the tree, and neither does the nut.
- Perhaps she is. If the reporter asks her "Is that how you raised your son?" and the answer is not in the negative, we may have another case of: The apple does not fall far from the tree, and neither does the nut.
- Well, this was all over the CBC news tonight as female journalists are saying that this is more common than we thought. Now, when I went to high school waaaaaay back in the last century, had I said such a thing in public to a female student I would have been physically tuned by my peers.
- So, let us do some scenario training: you are the husband or brother of a female journalist and standing ten feet away when she is verbally assaulted by one of those cumbubbles. Question: How many teeth will be left in his mouth when you are done with him?
- So, let us do some scenario training: you are the husband or brother of a female journalist and standing ten feet away when she is verbally assaulted by one of those cumbubbles. Question: How many teeth will be left in his mouth when you are done with him?
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Eaglelord17 said:
Sometimes boys will be boys, sometimes boys will be assholes. The boys who do this are assholes. If you wouldn't yell it at your sister or mother, why yell it at a perfect stranger?
George Wallace
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Kat Stevens said:
As we see, their one minute of fame has led to a long term case of infamy.
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mariomike said:
I think this is taking it too far and may also be a case of one generation not understanding meme's. If you look on Youtube which has hours of news bloopers where guys like the aforementioned HydroOne employee bomb live news crews all the time, regardless of sex or race. Its just a dumb, juvenile meme where I doubt offending women is the goal. Again, I'm not making excuses for people like this but they are blowing this story out of proportion and now serves another agenda.
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FortYorkRifleman said:
Just because a more recent generation gave "public dumb-assery" a title doesn't make it acceptable. And it is not generational. I knew dumb-asses when I was in my teens, and my twenties, and my thirties, and my forties, and my fifties - huh, now that I'm sixty maybe I should stop associating with dumb-asses. The only thing that changed is the spread of social media. While you may think it is just "juvenile" behaviour, it is not being done by juveniles but adults. HydroOne dumb-ass (and the majority of the other dumb-asses who also prescribe to this behaviour) is not a juvenile. You know what, the majority of us who did dumb-ass things in our youth grew up. Maybe being held accountable for his actions, like an adult, gives him a hint on how to behave as a responsible adult.
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Blackadder1916 said:
Fair enough but but it was juvenile; he did a childish thing only he got caught doing it. What he said moreso than what he did I hear in bars and restaurants in Toronto all the time by men (and women) my age (28) and older. His behavior, I would say, is drunken buffoonery more than anything else. There's a time and a place for this sort of behavior and given the environment he was in which is a sporting event where alcohol is being served I wouldn't expect anything better. She didn't interview him outside of HydroOne on a Monday
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A buddy of mine who has a lot broader grasp of the human condition than I do (he runs a bar) says we've always been, and continue to be stupid, but now, there's a WHOLE lot more easy-to-use tools to let a WHOLE lot more of the world see just how stupid one can be.ModlrMike said: