RADOPSIGOPACISSOP said:
Did you read it? They found a map that some guy named Gavin Menzies says is from 1421, they weren't sure if it was real, said they'll get the test results back in Feb 2007 and we haven't heard about that story since. It's nearly universally panned as lacking any shred of reliable evidence. In most references I've found Menzies is referred to a "pseudo-historian".
And I posted both sides of the story in Reply 2811 above.
RADOPSIGOPACISSOP said:
Honestly how sketchy and nonsensical does something have to be before you guys will use even a tiny bit of critical analysis?
Honestly how sketchy and nonsensical does something have to be before you guys will use even a tiny bit of critical analysis?
Seriously.
This fraud has moved from sketchy "science" to religious dogma for warmistas, and few dare to question it lest they be branded heretics.
Natural climate fluctuations due to solar cycles have been going on forever. we're not causing it, and we cannot stop it.
I'm not looking forward to the next Little Ice Age, and, while being able to say "I told you so" in twenty years will not make up for the annoyance of the cold, mountainous piles of snow disrupting life in urban areas, and food shortages, it will be satisfying nonetheless.
RADOPSIGOPACISSOP said:
I mean, take for instance, we have the current prevailing climate science, supported by mounds of evidence, supported by observable real world events, supported by the vast majority of the world's scientific community and you guys think it's all made up. On the other hand, some guy, universally dismissed, shows up out of the blue with what I can only assume at this point, a fake map, and you immediately agree China sailed through the Northwest Passage nearly 400 years before anyone else without even a ounce of hesitation.
It's not as "prevailing" as you think, the mounds on the reality side are at least as high, there are no consistent "observable real world events", the "vast majority" is half-vast at best, and a lot of it is indeed made up.
The scary predictions of the warmistas - coastal regions under water, deadly heat waves, dramatically-increased rate and severity of tropical storms etcetera - still have yet to pass, many years after we should have almost all been wiped out.
None of these events have been observed in the real world.
What was the source of the carbon dioxide - a naturally-occurring constituent of our atmosphere that is essential to plant life, and therefore essential to animal and human life - that caused the Mediaeval Warm Period, during which human civilization flourished?