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Freedom Convoy protests [Split from All things 2019-nCoV]

Edward Campbell said:
This, by Adrienne Clarkson, might be apropos.
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I have met this Colonel in Chief several times. She has always made time to say hello to my wife and I, and other families of the fallen. Edit to add: actually she sits down with Shirl and they have a short chat. I keep my mouth shut.

She hits the nail on the head. In my mind its sacred ground.
 
dapaterson said:
There are indications that the planned purchase of a deconsecrated church in Ottawa may not be going as planned. Reports that the group purportedly purchasing the property are being evicted for non payment of rent.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1560040938193436675
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Had that not been converted into an Art centre? Just wondering how this links to the convoy.

It's unfortunate they announced today they will be closing the doors.
 
The church had been converted to an arts centre; the owners of the arts centre had placed it on the market and a tentative sales agreement was (is?) in place with a convoy-adjacent group, who apparently have been renting in advance of the sale, and who appear to have not paid their commercial rent.
 
dapaterson said:
The church had been converted to an arts centre; the owners of the arts centre had placed it on the market and a tentative sales agreement was (is?) in place with a convoy-adjacent group, who apparently have been renting in advance of the sale, and who appear to have not paid their commercial rent.
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Ahhhh…commercial rental…

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Exactly; at 16 days after rent is owed, the owner can change the locks and seize property that's still inside (if I understand correctly).
 
This is a pretty optimistic view from the negotiator; at any given point there were at least 3-4 completely unrelated groups claiming to be the leaders of the convoy, plus a bunch of completely unrelated factions doing their own thing, and they couldn't even agree on what they wanted, or what they were protesting for. Also given that he calls Watson a 'very credible, respected mayor' pretty much undercuts his argument.

He may be right that the emergency act was an over reaction, but there were multiple announcements of deals, changes etc that never took place and the City of Ottawas response was about a month of dogging it and pearl clutching vice doing anything effective. When it was a random 21 year old getting a court injunction to stop the 24 hour honking vice the City, was a pretty clear sign they were not in any kind of control. Until the emergency act was brought in f-all happened for a month, and we were all Balcony Ricky at that point wanting pretty much anyone to put their big kid pants on and actually do something before things got even more out of hand.

This whole thing was such a total waste of time and didn't actually accomplish anything.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fr...-lich-keith-wilson-deal-dean-french-1.6552820

Negotiator behind deal with Freedom Convoy says Ottawa was too quick to use emergency powers​

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'History will show this was a total overreaction' — Dean French​

Guy Quenneville, Stephen Hoff · CBC News · Posted: Aug 17, 2022 7:17 PM ET | Last Updated: 12 minutes ago

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A police officer stands watch as a tow operator removes a truck from a blockade on Daly Ave. in Ottawa on Friday, Feb. 18, 2022. (Justin Tang/The Canadian Press)


The man who negotiated on the City of Ottawa's behalf with Tamara Lich and other organizers of the Freedom Convoy says an agreement for truckers to leave the city's residential streets wasn't given enough time to play out before the federal government used its emergency powers to quell the weeks-long occupation.

"This is a black mark on Canadian history," Dean French said of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's decision to invoke the Emergencies Act on Feb. 14, just a day after word of an agreement between the city and truckers became public.

"History will show this was a total overreaction."

Starting in late January, protesters rallied against pandemic restrictions and blocked neighbourhood access and main arteries around Parliament Hill by clogging the streets with trucks and other vehicles.

Triggering the act gave authorities sweeping temporary powers, including the ability to freeze the bank accounts and credit cards of protesters and compel tow truck companies to help them clear out vehicles. Attending any event deemed an unlawful assembly, such as the Ottawa convoy protest, also became illegal.

Last week, unsealed cabinet meeting minutes revealed Trudeau took the unprecedented measure of invoking the act only a day after being told by his national security adviser of a potential "breakthrough" in the crisis.

The office of Canada's Public Safety minister later said the minutes referred to negotiations led by the City of Ottawa that were "ultimately unsuccessful" after being "disavowed" by many associated with the convoy.

The government considered the outcome of those negotiations "as a factor in the decision to invoke the Emergencies Act," the minister's office added.

Meeting with convoy leaders over pizza​

French, who resigned from his job as chief of staff to Ontario Premier Doug Ford in 2019 following a controversy about patronage appointments, said dozens of trucks were starting to move from residential areas when the Emergencies Act was invoked.

"Why wouldn't Trudeau's cabinet have waited on the Sunday night [Feb. 13] to say, '[Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson], a very credible, respected mayor, has an agreement. Let's just wait two or three days to see if this peaceful resolution works. If it's not real, then let's put down the hammer,'" French told Power & Politics host Vassy Kapelos on Wednesday.

French said he approached Watson about helping to resolve the convoy crisis in Ottawa on Feb. 10, four days before the Emergencies Act came into effect.

WATCH / Negotiator says Trudeau government should have waited


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Government's use of Emergencies Act a 'black mark' on Canadian history, says convoy mediator​

3 hours ago
Duration 13:52
Dean French, who led negotiations between Ottawa's mayor and convoy leaders, says the government should have waited to see if protesters cleared residential areas after a deal was struck before invoking the Emergencies Act. "History is going to show this was a total overreaction"
By Feb. 11, he said, he was meeting in person with Lich and several other Freedom Convoy organizers over pizza at a downtown Ottawa hotel.

"We were done the deal that night, essentially," French said.

According to a Feb. 12 letter from Watson to Lich, the agreement called for all protest trucks to be removed within 72 hours from residential areas and from the parking lot of a baseball stadium. They were to move to Wellington Street just south of Parliament Hill.

If there was "clear evidence" of the convoy beginning to clear from neighbourhoods before noon on Feb. 14, Watson would meet with Lich, the mayor wrote.

In a letter of reply sent that same day, Lich told Watson the Freedom Convoy's board agreed with his request "to reduce pressure on the residents and businesses" and consolidate vehicles around Parliament Hill.

"We will be working hard over the next 24 hours to get buy-in from the truckers," Lich wrote. "We hope to start repositioning our trucks on Monday."

Lawyer Keith Wilson, who represents Lich on her non-criminal cases, gave CBC a memo from Lich and other convoy organizers he said was distributed to hundreds of convoy participants that day to tell them about the new strategy.

"We need to reposition our trucks so we don't give the Prime Minister the excuse he desperately wants to use force and seize our trucks," the memo says.


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Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino, Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland, Justice Minister and Attorney General of Canada David Lametti and President of the Queen’s Privy Council for Canada and Emergency Preparedness Minister Bill Blair stand behind Prime Minister Justin Trudeau as he announces the deployment of the Emergencies Act on Feb. 14, 2022 in Ottawa. (The Canadian Press)
Compelling trucking companies to help seize protest vehicles — one of the expanded powers allowed by invoking the Emergencies Act — was cited as an option in cabinet minutes as early as Feb. 12, the day before cabinet heard of the potential breakthrough. RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki told a parliamentary committee earlier tthis year the emergency powers were useful in dislodging the protesters who were entrenched in Ottawa's streets for weeks and there were times the RCMP would have used those powers sooner if the act had been invoked earlier.

The details of the agreement became public just hours before the cabinet meeting where Trudeau and assembled ministers were told of the "breakthrough," French said.

"It was pretty clear," he said of the agreement. "I'm surprised the wording from the security adviser to the prime minister and the cabinet wasn't a little bit more direct: 'The mayor has an agreement.'"

WATCH / Power Panel debates use of Emergencies Act


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Power Panel debates use of Emergencies Act​

3 hours ago
Duration 10:37
Power Panelists - Charelle Evelyn, Brian Gallant, Tim Powers and Kathleen Monk discuss the Liberal government's use of the Emergencies Act.

Mixed signals on whether there was a deal​

Some of the trucks — not all of them — moved from residential streets after the agreement was announced and Lich's Twitter account cast doubt on whether a deal had actually been made.


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Kapelos also pointed out that another key convoy figure, Pat King, denounced the deal and that some protesters interviewed after the agreement said publicly that they would not budge.

"Yes, there was some walk back-ing and some clarity that needed to take place," French said, adding that he'd "love to know" how many trucks had moved according to the Ottawa Police Service.

"I think it's the key question," French said of the public inquiry that will begin on Sept. 19 to analyze the Trudeau government's reasons for tapping into emergency measures.

Watson's office confirmed this week that the mayor never met with Lich.

The mayor declined to comment on the reported "breakthrough," citing his planned appearance at the inquiry.

A full list of witnesses will be released closer to the launch of the inquiry, a spokesperson for the Public Order Emergency Commission said.

Poor police communication hampered move: Lich's lawyer​

In a tweet last week criticizing the Trudeau government for invoking the Emergencies Act when it did, Wilson said the deal between the city and convoy organizers was signed on Feb. 12.


In an emailed statement, Wilson said the Feb. 13 tweet from Lich's account indicating there was no deal was "poorly worded."

He also pointed to a follow-up post stating the plan would go ahead.


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Trucks started to move the next morning "but poor communications within the several police services resulted in the trucks being blocked as they were moving," Wilson said.

More trucks were expected to move over the next two days as well. But Wilson said that by Feb. 16 — two days after the Emergencies Act came into effect and a day police began circulating notices to protesters telling them to leave downtown Ottawa — he was "told that the federal government and new police chief were stopping the deal from being implemented and no more trucks would be allowed to move" to Wellington or out of the city.


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Freedom Convoy 2022 lawyer Keith Wilson speaks during a news conference as truckers and supporters continue to protest COVID-19 vaccine mandates in Ottawa on Feb. 3, 2022. Convoy organizer Tamara Lich is at far right. (Blair Gable/Reuters)
Other unsealed court documents — which stem from the Canadian Civil Liberties Association suing the federal government over its use of the act — hint at police communication issues during the occupation.

"There appears to be a lack of a plan in Ottawa, with the Chief of Ottawa Police Service (OPS) having yet to approve the plan developed with the RCMP and OPP," read the minutes of the Feb. 12 meeting of cabinet and other members of the government's Incident Response Group.

"During the [meeting], confirmation was obtained that the OPS chief of police accepted the plan."

Later during the meeting it was noted that there continued to be "challenges working with the Integrated Planning Team in Ottawa around communication and decisively of the OPS Chief."

Peter Sloly resigned as Ottawa police chief on Feb. 15, the day after the act was invoked and amid allegations that he came into conflict with members of the OPP and RCMP tasked with assisting the city's law enforcement efforts during the crisis.

The Ottawa Police Service declined to comment on the minutes and Wilson's claims about police communication, citing the upcoming public inquiry.

"While the Ottawa Police Service has not yet received information confirming that it will be provided the opportunity to attend the public hearing, we intend to cooperate fully with the public inquiry and, should we be given the option, will appear before the Public Order Emergency Commission," a police spokesperson said.
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dapaterson said:
There are indications that the planned purchase of a deconsecrated church in Ottawa may not be going as planned. Reports that the group purportedly purchasing the property are being evicted for non payment of rent.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1560040938193436675
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Delicious. I suspect the OPS members working the Market will have a bit of ongoing stupidity to deal with for a few days, but commercial rental law is pretty merciless.

Buds who was making veiled threats about having guys on scene when the locksmith comes back is picking a fight he can’t win.
 
RangerRay said:
Looked like those guys were just starting up their own “security force”.

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They’ll run smack into Ontario’s pretty unforgiving legislation around the training and licensure of security guards if they try.

In any case, looks like their purchase of the church fell through. It’s back listed for sale again. They’ve posted some utterly nonsense public release full of legal woo, but they’re gonna get bounced quickly I expect.
 
They get a freebie five days to remove their stuff. The CTA allows a landlord to seek distraint (aka distress, ie. seizure of sufficient chattel to remedy the arrears) upon default, so they have been provided more time than legislation requires.
 
Colin Parkinson said:
Unlike tenant rights here, you truly don't want to be a Landlord.
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In Ontario, there is a significant difference between the Commercial and Residential Tenancy Acts. A residential case of arrears would take months and likely multiple hearings at the Landlord and Tenant Board (LTB). Commercial arrears are pretty fast and straightforward.
 
It's (was?) their "Embassy". For those who care:

www.tupoc.ca

Diverse Intergenerational Fraternal Organization | The United People Of Canada

The United People of Canada: Together, through appreciation and celebration of our unique culture and heritage, we offer a network of locations across Canada - and beyond. We build strong communities, offering safe access to education, networking, community events and new friendships.
www.tupoc.ca www.tupoc.ca

They even have swag! They are listed as an 'ally' on the Freedom Rising webpage:

Freedom Rising

freedomrising.info freedomrising.info
 
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