Freedom Convoy protests [Split from All things 2019-nCoV]

[Furniture]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-convoy-protest-regrets-1.6394502

I suspect we’ll hear about more of these stories.

I'm not sure Canadian's should be celebrating the fact that a guy who delivered gas to protestors still has his bank accounts frozen, and is being punished by process...

Ruining people's lives is not something that should be taken lightly.

 

[Remius]

I'm not sure Canadian's should be celebrating the fact that a guy who delivered gas to protestors still has his bank accounts frozen, and is being punished by process...

Ruining people's lives is not something that should be taken lightly.

Who is celebrating?

I actually feel sorry for the guy who fell in this. I think a lot of people were conned into this by bad actors. I’ve said that before.

I think we’ll be hearing more stories like this.

 

[Kickingsauce]

Seeing the government freeze the money of political dissidents is disgusting. Protesting wasn't even 10% of the way to deserving having YOUR bank accounts frozen so that you can't pay bills or buy your children food. My only regret is that I didn't support these people more, but at the time I never expected the government to implement dictatorial measures on protestors. My only prayers now are that the Conservatives won't do this to any liberal protestors when they're in power next. But I fear its too late, a disgusting precedence has been set. We've moved an unbelievable amount towards making any future protest illegal/not worth having in only a year. It's time to have a Libertarian party in charge to blow up the big 3 power hungry parties imo

 

[Remius]

Seeing the government freeze the money of political dissidents is disgusting. Protesting wasn't even 10% of the way to deserving having YOUR bank accounts frozen so that you can't pay bills or buy your children food. My only regret is that I didn't support these people more, but at the time I never expected the government to implement dictatorial measures on protestors. My only prayers now are that the Conservatives won't do this to any liberal protestors when they're in power next. But I fear its too late, a disgusting precedence has been set. We've moved an unbelievable amount towards making any future protest illegal/not worth having in only a year. It's time to have a Libertarian party in charge to blow up the big 3 power hungry parties imo

Except this protest became unlawful. Don’t skip that part. It made itself illegal.

As for the EA, I agree whole heartedly that it wasn’t required. But people needed to be arrested and should be prosecuted for their part in what happened. They don’t get a free pass for their actions if they crossed any lines of the law.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Seeing the government freeze the money of political dissidents is disgusting. Protesting wasn't even 10% of the way to deserving having YOUR bank accounts frozen so that you can't pay bills or buy your children food. My only regret is that I didn't support these people more, but at the time I never expected the government to implement dictatorial measures on protestors. My only prayers now are that the Conservatives won't do this to any liberal protestors when they're in power next. But I fear its too late, a disgusting precedence has been set. We've moved an unbelievable amount towards making any future protest illegal/not worth having in only a year. It's time to have a Libertarian party in charge to blow up the big 3 power hungry parties imo

I'm no big fan of implementing the Emergency Act to move along a bunch of intransigent civvies.

But, having been on the 'Law Enforcement' side of alot of civil disobedience type operations, I'd prefer that people go home because - if they don't - they can't pay for lunch at a restaurant with their bank card than having to move in with batons and smash their faces in, and get my people injured in the process.

 

[brihard]

Seeing the government freeze the money of political dissidents is disgusting. Protesting wasn't even 10% of the way to deserving having YOUR bank accounts frozen so that you can't pay bills or buy your children food. My only regret is that I didn't support these people more, but at the time I never expected the government to implement dictatorial measures on protestors. My only prayers now are that the Conservatives won't do this to any liberal protestors when they're in power next. But I fear its too late, a disgusting precedence has been set. We've moved an unbelievable amount towards making any future protest illegal/not worth having in only a year. It's time to have a Libertarian party in charge to blow up the big 3 power hungry parties imo

What’s your reason for claiming the government froze this account? If there was a criminal code restraint order in place, he’d know about it. This was likely done independently by the bank. This was discussed further upthread.

 

[QV]

I'm not sure Canadian's should be celebrating the fact that a guy who delivered gas to protestors still has his bank accounts frozen, and is being punished by process... Ruining people's lives is not something that should be taken lightly.

A number of the EU MPs agree with you. They publicly lambasted Trudeau during his recent visit to the EU. I don't think something like this has happened to a Canadian PM in history.

 

[Brad Sallows]

I suspect we’ll hear about more of these stories.

You will. CBC loves to run schadenfreude stories.

 

[OceanBonfire]

Really happy for her to find a way to somehow shut those idiots:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/zexi-li-ottawa-mayor-city-builder-award-march-23-council-meeting-1.6394429

Zexi Li receives city builder award

Zexi Li, who helped stop the horn-honking in downtown Ottawa during the Freedom Convoy, is honoured at city council.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Good2Golf]

A number of the EU MPs agree with you. They publicly lambasted Trudeau during his recent visit to the EU. I don't think something like this has happened to a Canadian PM in history.

German MEP Christine Andersen not mincing her words…

When you start to drink your own bath water, you look like a hero in the mirror…

 

[Altair]

German MEP Christine Andersen not mincing her words…

When you start to drink your own bath water, you look like a hero in the mirror…

German court rules far-right AfD party a suspected threat to democracy

Domestic intelligence agency can now tap communications and use undercover informants to spy on activities

www.theguardian.com

A German court has ruled that the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) can be classified as a suspected threat to democracy, paving the way for the domestic intelligence agency to spy on the opposition party.

AfD politician says Germany should stop atoning for Nazi crimes

Björn Höcke sparks fury by calling for tradition to end and labelling Holocaust memorial a ‘monument of shame’

www.theguardian.com

A politician from the rightwing populist Alternative for Germany (AfD) party has broken with the country’s postwar political consensus by calling for a “180-degree turn” from the tradition of remembering and atoning for the Nazi era.

In a speech in a beer hall in Dresden, Björn Höcke, who leads the party in the eastern state of Thuringia, railed against Germany’s decade-long tradition of acknowledging the crimes of the National Socialist era, describing the Holocaust memorial in Berlin as a “monument of shame”.

Christine Anderson - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Christine Margarete Anderson is a German politician who is serving as an Alternative for Germany (AfD) Member of the European Parliament

I don't think Trudeau cares much about what the Nazi sympathizer is saying.

Do you care much about what the Nazi sympathizer is saying?

 

[brihard]

Multiple additional charges have been sworn against organizers Tamara Lich, Chris Barber, Pat King, and Tyson Billings. Appears the police are continuing to collect and analyze evidence to support further charges. Not surprising, there’s a ton of work to do.

'Freedom Convoy' leader Pat King facing new charges

'Freedom Convoy' leader Pat King is facing several new charges in relation to his alleged role in the occupation of downtown Ottawa.

ottawa.ctvnews.ca

 

[Jarnhamar]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-convoy-protest-regrets-1.6394502

I suspect we’ll hear about more of these stories.

Anglehart said he's unable to access his account because it remains frozen. More than 250 accounts linked to people and businesses involved in convoy protests were frozen after the Emergencies Act was invoked.

This guy is clearly a threat to national security. Hopefully the government takes the car he's living in away from him too.

 

[Jarnhamar]

German court rules far-right AfD party a suspected threat to democracy

Domestic intelligence agency can now tap communications and use undercover informants to spy on activities

www.theguardian.com

AfD politician says Germany should stop atoning for Nazi crimes

Björn Höcke sparks fury by calling for tradition to end and labelling Holocaust memorial a ‘monument of shame’

www.theguardian.com

Christine Anderson - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I don't think Trudeau cares much about what the Nazi sympathizer is saying.

Do you care much about what the Nazi sympathizer is saying?

I don't think Trudeau cares much about what anyone who doesn't share his views is saying.

 

[Altair]

I don't think Trudeau cares much about what anyone who doesn't share his views is saying.

Maybe, maybe not.

But should we care about what a member of the ADF is saying? The party that want to stop looking poorly on Nazi era, and screaming about the Islamicization of Germany?

If the ADF is criticizing Trudeau, he's probably doing something right. If they are complimenting him, he's doing something very very wrong.

 

[Good2Golf]

I don't think Trudeau cares much about what the Nazi sympathizer is saying.

Grammar Panda thinks you forgot to include the word 'alleged' or the phrase 'in my opinion'...

Do you care much about what the Nazi sympathizer is sayin?

Is an alleged (by your accounts) Nazi sympathizer any worse than an 'on-the-record' Communist Dictator admirer?

 

[Jarnhamar]

But should we care about what a member of the ADF is saying?

Why not?

Lots of other people including civil rights advocates, lawyers, and the like criticized the exact same behavior by Trudeau. Including, as you know, one of the founders of our constitution.

Besides Liberals didn't seem to care much about what Liberal MP Joël Lightbound was saying about his own party, it's a big confirmation bias.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Except this protest became unlawful. Don’t skip that part. It made itself illegal.

There was quite a bit of a grey area when it moved from lawful to unlawful. I seem to recall even the police being confused.

 

[brihard]

There was quite a bit of a grey area when it moved from lawful to unlawful. I seem to recall even the police being confused.

Police at the lower levels were confused about what enforcement would be permitted and supported by management. There was zero confusion that blocking city streets in the manner that they did, and committing mischief throughout downtown, was illegal.

 

[Altair]

Why not?

I don't listen to groups that openly embrace Islamophobia and want to look at the Nazi era in a less negative light. A party German courts call a open threat to democracy. Its like listening to the KKK. Would you?

Lots of other people including civil rights advocates, lawyers, and the like criticized the exact same behavior by Trudeau. Including, as you know, one of the founders of our constitution.

If people want to post what those people say, I don't much care.

I don't give a damn what someone from the ADF has to say.

Besides Liberals didn't seem to care much about what Liberal MP Joël Lightbound was saying about his own party, it's a big confirmation bias.

I don't think 1 MP is going to change the direction of the party.