Flight Steward/Attendant

[DAA]

I recently applied for the Position Flight Steward/Attendant on the Forces.ca website, I got an e-mail today to send an e-mail to another e-mail address to make an appointment.

My question is what are the chances for someone like me with that background to obtain this position? (I do speak three different languages if that helps)

That's an easy question to answer.  Your chances of joining the CF as a Flight Steward/Attendant from off the street are ZERO!

Flight Steward is an internal assignment within the CF and these positions are filled by currently serving members of the CF on a short term basis.  After 3-4 years, the CF members serving in these positions, return to their normal occupations.

 

[Ready to work!]

That's an easy question to answer.  Your chances of joining the CF as a Flight Steward/Attendant from off the street are ZERO!

Flight Steward is an internal assignment within the CF and these positions are filled by currently serving members of the CF on a short term basis.  After 3-4 years, the CF members serving in these positions, return to their normal occupations.

I see, thank you! It was between this and Cathay and I thought I would learn a lot more through this. On the training section did say I will have to go through basic training in Quebec, then Nova Scotia.

 

[AmmoTech90]

I see, thank you! It was between this and Cathay and I thought I would learn a lot more through this. On the training section did say I will have to go through basic training in Quebec, then Nova Scotia.

You probably applied for Steward which is a hard sea trade.  You would have the option to do a tour as Flight Steward as does a bunch of other trades.  As a Steward you would most likely spend more time at sea than in the air.

 

[Sparkplugs]

You probably applied for Steward which is a hard sea trade.  You would have the option to do a tour as Flight Steward as does a bunch of other trades.  As a Steward you would most likely spend more time at sea than in the air.

And even if you do get the Flight Steward posting, it's literally for three or four years, and then you're back to the Navy. You have to be willing to spend a long time as a Navy steward (or a cook) to even have a chance to apply for Flight Steward, and there's no guarantees, the selection is what it is.

 

[chadk]

I am hoping someone can shed some light on this.  Flight Steward and Flight Attendant both require an Air Factor of 4.  I am a 5.  Does this mean (similar to having a 3 for occupation, when you need a 2) that I will not qualify for Flight Steward?  I believe that I already know the answer to my question, but wanted to put it out there. 

Flight Steward #'s are 333334 where I am 131235

A4 •Assigned to Search and Rescue (SAR) Specialists (00101), Aerospace Controller (AEC) (00184 including Air Traffic, Air Weapons Controllers), Aerospace Control Operator (AC Op) (00337 including Air Traffic, Air Weapons), Loadmasters (00170-01), Flight Stewards (00165-01), Flight Attendants, Aeromedical Training Officers (AMTO) (00197), and Flight Technician – Aeromed (00334-05), Flight Surgeons (00196-04), Flight Nurses (00195-01), Flight Medical technicians (00334-01) medical fit for unrestricted duties in air operations


A5 •Assigned to non-aircrew CF personnel medically fit to fly as passengers in CF aircraft

 

[Ostrozac]

Everybody by default has an Air Factor of 5 (fit to fly as a passenger), until they undergo an aircrew flight medical. People who then fail that aircrew medical might then get assigned Air Factor 3 or 7, depending on the specific situation.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/about-policies-standards-medical-occupations/cf-medical-category-system.page

So if you have a 5 you probably have never been tested by a flight surgeon. That's normal, every starts as a 5. Get tested, find out if you're suitable for Air Factor 4, and good luck.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Yup!

Basically, you need to book an appointment with your BHosp/CDU to have an initial aircrew medical done, tell them what for (Flight Steward) and what timeline you need it.  There is a Pt 1 and Pt 2...if both are good, you should be able to get a signature on your VOT application (Section/Part 2 IIRC) where the Flight Surgeon will sign it 'fit initial aircrew' or something along that line, the file then gets sent to CFEME/AUMB (Aerospace Unwater Medical Board) in Toronto; they are the only folks in the CAF that can assign the required factors for aircrew and divers.

They will then determine/assign your permanent AF and your Med Cat will be changed officially.

However, the important part for your OT application is the "fit initial aircrew" signature from your local Flt Srgn;  make that appointment asap to get the ball rolling.

Just for clarity, despite the fact that Flight Stewards are Flight Crew vice Aircrew, they still do the 'aircrew medical' and all the same stuff aircrew trades do for AF assignment.  So, expect things like bloodwork, BMI, waist circumference etc to be part of the process. 

 

[chadk]

Guys, thank you.  I'm getting to the short end of my rope and wishing that I had not done a particular surgery.  It ended up putting my occupation as a 3 where a lot of trades require a 2 now.  I had been looking at doing an actual remuster to Supply tech but as of April 1st the category changed.  So as a current Steward, I have flight to look to as an option.  I will get an aircrew medical done and get the ball rolling.

 

[Nudibranch]

Guys, thank you.  I'm getting to the short end of my rope and wishing that I had not done a particular surgery.  It ended up putting my occupation as a 3 where a lot of trades require a 2 now.  I had been looking at doing an actual remuster to Supply tech but as of April 1st the category changed.  So as a current Steward, I have flight to look to as an option.  I will get an aircrew medical done and get the ball rolling.

If you're RegF and have a low-risk AR/MEL (looks like yours is O3) and are retained without restrictions, there may be a possibility of getting a waiver for the 3 in order to VOT. Not a guarantee, but it's possible depending on the situation. Your CoC would been to be engaged.