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First Nations - CF help, protests, solutions, residential schools, etc. (merged)

New to this thread, so correct me if this has been discussed before.

Why not make all 3 territories into provinces? This would add additional ridings as well to beef up indigenous federal representation in the HoC no?
 
New to this thread, so correct me if this has been discussed before.

Why not make all 3 territories into provinces? This would add additional ridings as well to beef up indigenous federal representation in the HoC no?
Ridings are based on population, not provinces. (with some legacy aberrations)
 
I know a person who is Status Indian without being even 1% native. Their Grandmother married a Native man and she already had kids before the marriage. He adopted the kids and they then gained Native status, which in turn was passed on to their kids. If they don't make a kid with someone who is Status Indian though their kids won't have status.

Which reminds me of...

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Interesting take on the half-staff flags from an interesting group ...
Ray Deer answered the phone on a late October day and heard the news that Bo Curotte, a Vietnam War veteran, had succumbed to cancer. Deer is president of the Royal Canadian Legion Branch 219 in Kahnawake Mohawk territory, and such phone calls are an ever more regular occurrence.

(...)

... understanding that a tribute needs to be paid to each departed veteran is one of the reasons Deer and the Kahnawake elders resolved that after keeping the flags at half-mast for a 30-day mourning period in the wake of the discovery of 215 unmarked graves at the former Kamloops Indian Residential School in British Columbia, it was time to raise them back up again.

“We didn’t want to have the flags lowered forever,” Deer said. “Quebec and Canada have never told us, as Mohawks, what to do, and so we put the flag back up when we felt it was the right time.”

(...)

Together with poppies, two minutes of silence, the laying of wreaths and the playing of the Last Post, lowering the national flag to half-mast at sunrise and keeping it there until sunset is an integral part of remembering.

“The rituals are crucial,” retired Gen. Rick Hillier said. “They are part of how we learn, and how we remember.”

But if the flag’s already at half-mast, the ritual can’t be performed, which would be unforgivable, Hillier said. Such was the former chief of the defence staff and Afghanistan veteran’s dismay that he pulled his car over to the side of the road while en route from the capital region to Montebello, Que., to say his soldier’s piece about what is shaping up to be a Remembrance Day fight over the flag.

“You can’t lower the flag on Nov. 11 unless you raise it,” he said. “We are past our best-sell-by date on this, and it is time to put the flags back to full-mast.” ...
 
With Pope Francis visit and forthcoming apology, we can finally close this dark chapter of the Canadian residential school system and "reconciliation" with the FN.
 
With Pope Francis visit and forthcoming apology ...
For the record, apology given April, so now it's being "re-news'ed" here
Heck, even the Canadian Bishops, who have said in the past that they couldn't really apologize themselves*, liked it
... we can finally close this dark chapter of the Canadian residential school system and "reconciliation" with the FN.
One hopes, but we'll see.

* - Linking to the text originally posted to the site, given the link now brings you to the newest version of the organization's postion
 
For the record, apology given April, so now it's being "re-news'ed" here
Heck, even the Canadian Bishops, who have said in the past that they couldn't really apologize themselves*, liked it

One hopes, but we'll see.

* - Linking to the text originally posted to the site, given the link now brings you to the newest version of the organization's postion

Well, apart from the formal apology, it seems that one of the key issues is that the Pope's is the only church that hasn't coughed up any cash yet. I haven't heard anything about money yet in the recent coverage:


Residential school compensation must be paid before any papal visit, say survivors, advocates​

Say​

Public costs of previous papal visits have ranged from $50 million to $100 million​


Jason Warick · CBC News · Posted: Nov 05, 2021 2:00 AM CT | Last Updated: November 5, 2021


Demands for Catholic Church to pay residential school settlement before any papal visit​


Residential school survivors and advocates say they want the Catholic Church to pay the remaining amount of how much it owes to survivors under a 2005 settlement deal. It’s estimated at about $60 million, which is also how much a possible visit by the Pope could cost Canada.

The potential $50 million to $100 million cost of a Canadian papal visit isn't far off the amount the Catholic Church still owes residential school survivors, say advocates.

They say that bill — estimated at slightly more than $60 million — must be paid and all documents about the schools disclosed before one dollar is committed to bringing Pope Francis to Canada for an expected apology. One Vatican expert says that's highly unlikely, but survivors say they'll keep pressing.

"That money should go to survivors first. The Vatican is rich. They owe us for what they did," Cote First Nation survivor Madeleine Whitehawk said.
"They have not been honourable. Saying sorry is not enough."

 
... the Pope's is the only church that hasn't coughed up any cash yet ...
To be fair, Team Papist did throw some cash into the plate. They were supposed to raise $25M to help support survivors, but, well, uh, here's what they managed to scrape together....
... Canada's 12 million Catholics donated less than $4 million of the promised $25 million — roughly 30 cents per person ...
... and let's not forget the "in kind" help Team Papist DID provided, too (highlights mine)...
... CBC News has obtained the log detailing the in-kind claims for dozens of Canadian Catholic entities party to the landmark 2005 Indian Residential School Settlement Agreement (IRSSA). Survivors and advocates interviewed say they're shocked, as many of the listed services are nothing more than attempts to evangelize and convert Indigenous people. The list includes bible-study programs, placement of priests and nuns in remote northern communities, services under the frequently used label of "religiosity" and religious-document translation ...
 
To be fair, Team Papist did throw some cash into the plate. They were supposed to raise $25M to help support survivors, but, well, uh, here's what they managed to scrape together....

... and let's not forget the "in kind" help Team Papist DID provided, too (highlights mine)...
Wow.

There really is a moral disconnect between the average everyday person, and a large organization that can afford expensive lawyers.

It’s always hard for me to wrap my head around an organization spending it’s money on legal fees, so it doesn’t have to do the right thing…

it’s like they are completely blind to how that comes across to people outside their little circle of decision makers.
 
With Pope Francis visit and forthcoming apology, we can finally close this dark chapter of the Canadian residential school system and "reconciliation" with the FN.
I'm not an expert on the RC Church, but I was under the impression that the Pope was incapable of apologizing because he was considered to be infallible? Won't this apology compromise his position?
 
I'm not an expert on the RC Church, but I was under the impression that the Pope was incapable of apologizing because he was considered to be infallible? Won't this apology compromise his position?
Happened in Ireland in 2018 and (from a different, more conservative Pope) in 2010, and one out to the Pacific nations (from yet another Pope) in 2001, so if infallibility is the issue, Team Vatican seems to be able to be ... selective in what's a "must do" versus a "could do." Then again, this wouldn't be the only big organization of any kind in the world that does that - same with this ...
... It’s always hard for me to wrap my head around an organization spending it’s money on legal fees, so it doesn’t have to do the right thing…
In the words of the DM and the Minister in "Yes Minister"
... DM: ... you might create a dangerous precedent.

Minister: You mean that if we do the right thing this time, we might have to do the right thing again next time ...
 
Not sure that apologies for misdeeds of others falls under the doctrine of "papal infallibility".
 
Wow.

There really is a moral disconnect between the average everyday person, and a large organization that can afford expensive lawyers.

It’s always hard for me to wrap my head around an organization spending it’s money on legal fees, so it doesn’t have to do the right thing…

it’s like they are completely blind to how that comes across to people outside their little circle of decision makers.
How many times have a large corp or government entity fight tooth and nail and fatten the bank accounts of legal firms over something they have to know they'll lose eventually. Its actually disgusting.
 
For the record, the statement ....
APOSTOLIC JOURNEY OF HIS HOLINESS POPE FRANCIS
to CANADA
(24 - 30 JULY 2022)

MEETING WITH INDIGENOUS PEOPLES: FIRST NATIONS, MÉTIS AND INUIT

ADDRESS OF HIS HOLINESS

Maskwacis
Monday, 25 July2022


[Multimedia]

___________________________________


Madam Governor General,
Mr Prime Minister,
Dear indigenous peoples of Maskwacis and of this land of Canada,
Dear brothers and sisters!


I have been waiting to come here and be with you! Here, from this place associated with painful memories, I would like to begin what I consider a pilgrimage, a penitential pilgrimage. I have come to your native lands to tell you in person of my sorrow, to implore God’s forgiveness, healing and reconciliation, to express my closeness and to pray with you and for you.

I recall the meetings we had in Rome four months ago. At that time, I was given two pairs of moccasins as a sign of the suffering endured by indigenous children, particularly those who, unfortunately, never came back from the residential schools. I was asked to return the moccasins when I came to Canada; I brought them, and I will return them at the end of these few words, in which I would like to reflect on this symbol, which over the past few months has kept alive my sense of sorrow, indignation and shame. The memory of those children is indeed painful; it urges us to work to ensure that every child is treated with love, honour and respect. At the same time, those moccasins also speak to us of a path to follow, a journey that we desire to make together. We want to walk together, to pray together and to work together, so that the sufferings of the past can lead to a future of justice, healing and reconciliation.

That is why the first part of my pilgrimage among you takes place in this region, which from time immemorial has seen the presence of indigenous peoples. These are lands that speak to us; they enable us to remember.

To remember: brothers and sisters, you have lived on these lands for thousands of years, following ways of life that respect the earth which you received as a legacy from past generations and are keeping for those yet to come. You have treated it as a gift of the Creator to be shared with others and to be cherished in harmony with all that exists, in profound fellowship with all living beings. In this way, you learned to foster a sense of family and community, and to build solid bonds between generations, honouring your elders and caring for your little ones. A treasury of sound customs and teachings, centred on concern for others, truthfulness, courage and respect, humility, honesty and practical wisdom!

Yet if those were the first steps taken in these lands, the path of remembrance leads us, sadly, to those that followed. The place where we are gathered renews within me the deep sense of pain and remorse that I have felt in these past months. I think back on the tragic situations that so many of you, your families and your communities have known; of what you shared with me about the suffering you endured in the residential schools. These are traumas that are in some way reawakened whenever the subject comes up; I realize too that our meeting today can bring back old memories and hurts, and that many of you may feel uncomfortable even as I speak. Yet it is right to remember, because forgetfulness leads to indifference and, as has been said, “the opposite of love is not hatred, it’s indifference… and the opposite of life is not death, it’s indifference” (E. WIESEL). To remember the devastating experiences that took place in the residential schools hurts, angers, causes pain, and yet it is necessary.

It is necessary to remember how the policies of assimilation and enfranchisement, which also included the residential school system, were devastating for the people of these lands. When the European colonists first arrived here, there was a great opportunity to bring about a fruitful encounter between cultures, traditions and forms of spirituality. Yet for the most part that did not happen. Again, I think back on the stories you told: how the policies of assimilation ended up systematically marginalizing the indigenous peoples; how also through the system of residential schools your languages and cultures were denigrated and suppressed; how children suffered physical, verbal, psychological and spiritual abuse; how they were taken away from their homes at a young age, and how that indelibly affected relationships between parents and children, grandparents and grandchildren.

I thank you for making me appreciate this, for telling me about the heavy burdens that you still bear, for sharing with me these bitter memories. Today I am here, in this land that, along with its ancient memories, preserves the scars of still open wounds. I am here because the first step of my penitential pilgrimage among you is that of again asking forgiveness, of telling you once more that I am deeply sorry. Sorry for the ways in which, regrettably, many Christians supported the colonizing mentality of the powers that oppressed the indigenous peoples. I am sorry. I ask forgiveness, in particular, for the ways in which many members of the Church and of religious communities cooperated, not least through their indifference, in projects of cultural destruction and forced assimilation promoted by the governments of that time, which culminated in the system of residential schools.

Although Christian charity was not absent, and there were many outstanding instances of devotion and care for children, the overall effects of the policies linked to the residential schools were catastrophic. What our Christian faith tells us is that this was a disastrous error, incompatible with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is painful to think of how the firm soil of values, language and culture that made up the authentic identity of your peoples was eroded, and that you have continued to pay the price of this. In the face of this deplorable evil, the Church kneels before God and implores his forgiveness for the sins of her children (cf. JOHN PAUL II, Bull Incarnationis Mysterium [29 November 1998), 11: AAS 91 [1999], 140). I myself wish to reaffirm this, with shame and unambiguously. I humbly beg forgiveness for the evil committed by so many Christians against the indigenous peoples.

Dear brothers and sisters, many of you and your representatives have stated that begging pardon is not the end of the matter. I fully agree: that is only the first step, the starting point. I also recognize that, “looking to the past, no effort to beg pardon and to seek to repair the harm done will ever be sufficient” and that, “looking ahead to the future, no effort must be spared to create a culture able to prevent such situations from happening” (Letter to the People of God, 20 August 2018). An important part of this process will be to conduct a serious investigation into the facts of what took place in the past and to assist the survivors of the residential schools to experience healing from the traumas they suffered.

I trust and pray that Christians and civil society in this land may grow in the ability to accept and respect the identity and the experience of the indigenous peoples. It is my hope that concrete ways can be found to make those peoples better known and esteemed, so that all may learn to walk together. For my part, I will continue to encourage the efforts of all Catholics to support the indigenous peoples. I have done so on other occasions and in various places, through meetings, appeals and also through the writing of an Apostolic Exhortation. I realize that all this will require time and patience. We are speaking of processes that must penetrate hearts. My presence here and the commitment of the Canadian Bishops are a testimony to our will to persevere on this path.

Dear friends, this pilgrimage is taking place over several days and in places far distant from one another; even so, it will not allow me to accept the many invitations I have received to visit centres like Kamloops, Winnipeg and various places in Saskatchewan, Yukon and the Northwest Territories. Although it is not possible, please know that all of you are in my thoughts and in my prayer. Know that I am aware of the sufferings and traumas, the difficulties and challenges, experienced by the indigenous peoples in every region of this country. The words that I speak throughout this penitential journey are meant for every native community and person. I embrace all of you with affection.

On this first step of my journey, I have wanted to make space for memory. Here, today, I am with you to recall the past, to grieve with you, to bow our heads together in silence and to pray before the graves. Let us allow these moments of silence to help us interiorize our pain. Silence. And prayer. In the face of evil, we pray to the Lord of goodness; in the face of death, we pray to the God of life. Our Lord Jesus Christ took a grave, which seemed the burial place of every hope and dream, leaving behind only sorrow, pain and resignation, and made it a place of rebirth and resurrection, the beginning of a history of new life and universal reconciliation. Our own efforts are not enough to achieve healing and reconciliation: we need God’s grace. We need the quiet and powerful wisdom of the Spirit, the tender love of the Comforter. May he bring to fulfilment the deepest expectations of our hearts. May he take us by the hand and enable us to advance together on our journey.
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Double shot from The Beaverton :)
 
Bumped with the latest ....
Canada's civilian spy service assessed whether First Nations land rights activists who disrupt trains should be classed as a "terrorist threat" to national security alongside the likes of Al-Qaeda and ISIS, according to declassified documents.

But the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) eventually decided the label wouldn't stick after probing the issue in secret, internal studies whose findings were shared with government officials in an unclassified March 2021 counterterror briefing.

CSIS reached this conclusion through analysis of the Canadian criminal code, under which, to be considered terrorism, interference or disruption of essential services must inflict death or injury through violence, or otherwise cause serious risk to public health and safety.

"Unsophisticated acts of unlawful interference [like blockades] do not cross the terrorism threshold," the Integrated Terrorism Assessment Centre (ITAC) said in a report released through access-to-information law.

"Although these disruptive actions are damaging to the economy and to rail network operations, they have not yet amounted to acts of terrorism." ...
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