daftandbarmy
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.... I was utterly shocked at how little Northern infrastructure Ontario has, someone should be lined up and shot for that ...
Another good point: there is no consensus on full-time road connection. And those that oppose all-season access also worry about the bad things that might come in - not that the bad things stay out now, but it would only accelerate.... I don't recall a real ground swell of demand for year-round roads - many in the communities fear social encroachment because they would be public roads to the reserve boundary ...
Oh, I am well aware of the family/clan politics/corruption/lack of transparency within a significant number First Nations. The thing is: they can always point the finger and “blame whitey”. Most times, they are at least partially right.
I am saying this- give them the financial resources and let them figure it out. Right now, no non-native can give any criticism or suggestion to improve FN life without it being taken the wrong way.
Good luck with that.I would prefer to provide support payments to individual people rather than band governments, as many of the latter are very corrupt as has been noted.
The bands could then tax their people to pay for services. The desire of the people to enforce accountability should improve as it should be much more obvious that they are being ripped off and who is ripping them off.
Property rights should help, as well, as then people would have ownership of and incentive to maintain and improve their houses as they could no longer be displaced at the whim of a corrupt band council.
Sounds like you're making way too much sense for any realistic government solution there, bud .... Not to mention the concept of "it only costs $x million to fix up the diesel generating station this time, but we'll have to find $xxxM to get power lines up there."It's not going to get cheaper the longer you wait to build. It take a very long time to reach many of them and if you plan the road right you make air transport cheaper and faster to the non connected ones as goods can be trucked closer.
And the very public battle between the Métis and FN aren’t helping here in ManitobaGood luck with that.
There is a well connected, vocal group at the top of most band structures that jealously guards their power.
It's not going to get cheaper the longer you wait to build. It take a very long time to reach many of them and if you plan the road right you make air transport cheaper and faster to the non connected ones as goods can be trucked closer.
Sounds like you're making way too much sense for any realistic government solution there, bud .... Not to mention the concept of "it only costs $x million to fix up the diesel generating station this time, but we'll have to find $xxxM to get power lines up there."
I read the situation the same as you.... I'm still not convinced there is a consensus amongst the communities for road connectivity, but stand to be corrected ....
Good point - not all the remote communities, and still early days, but a good start.Actually, that initiative is already under way:
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It's a lot easier to build and maintain a pole line than a year-round road ...
I read the situation the same as you.
Good point - not all the remote communities, and still early days, but a good start.
Now compare it to other Provinces which have a smaller population, tax base, younger and you will see how Ontario has done a piss poor job.If it were only "the road":
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This is just northwestern Ontario.
Actually, that initiative is already under way:
The Wataynikaneyap Transmission Project | FortisOntario Inc.
www.fortisontario.com
It's a lot easier to build and maintain a pole line than a year-round road.
The upfront cost would reduce costs in areas such as transportation, consumer goods and housing; however, I'm still not convinced there is a consensus amongst the communities for road connectivity, but stand to be corrected.
These FNTs are located in their various traditional territories. One challenge is they are now living a non-traditional lifestyle. Short of resource royalties and some level of employment, there is simply no economic basis for these communities without government support.
Political lack of will at all levels & all parties notwithstanding, I'm going to guess there's also more geography in play in NW Ontario (40+ communities in an area the size of France) when you compare province-to-province, but I stand to be corrected.Now compare it to other Provinces which have a smaller population, tax base, younger and you will see how Ontario has done a piss poor job.
Short of resource royalties and some level of employment, there is simply no economic basis for these communities without government support.
If teenagers and young adults started abandoning the reserves and the north to head to the big city