Fighting & Winning The Global War on Terror (WW IV)
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Since respect always goes out to people who when they can think of nothing to support their argument, resort to insults.You're full of it.Have a good night.
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BTW the casualty figures I posted represent loss and determinatation to win, but what do you know? After all you thought in for a penny, in for a pound was about money. I have a lot of respect for todays youth in general, but you got a long row to hoe.
Many insurgents are foreigners with a hatred for the west.
Attack all you want, personally I thrive on being insulted. Who do you think you are talking too? I am 45 yrs old ( not a 19 yr old uni student), January 2005 marks 29 yrs service in two different armies, once you get some TI maybe you will stop seeing things how you do now, and realise how mislead you have been in the past.
I don't need to take shtye from a snotty nosed kid with an attitude, so F.O.
Many insurgents are foreigners with a hatred for the west.
Attack all you want, personally I thrive on being insulted. Who do you think you are talking too? I am 45 yrs old ( not a 19 yr old uni student), January 2005 marks 29 yrs service in two different armies, once you get some TI maybe you will stop seeing things how you do now, and realise how mislead you have been in the past.
I don't need to take shtye from a snotty nosed kid with an attitude, so F.O.
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jmackenzie_15
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Arent you supposed to be the wise adult ? your egging on the argument based on what? I have nothing more to say to you, again, GOOD NIGHT.
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No. Thier goal is to re-establish conditions for a regiem in which a minorety oppresses the majority of the states populace. Likely, they are also trying to establish a system that will accomodate extreemist Islam. The coalition reconstruction efforts are the primary barrier to them.jmackenzie_15 said:
. . . and it is still terrorism and targeting non-combatants.
How is this more relevant than Korean war casualties? The bombing of the media convoy was an accident. The coalition forces have been going after combatants, not civillian aid works.jmackenzie_15 said:
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;D ROTF and seriously LMHO! Bloody helll Infanteer!
However, if he says who he is????? Too bad his views couldnt be forwarded on to his CSM, or worse his 'mates'
Cheers (and beers),
Gotta go, caroles on the beach tonight (Dunningham Park, Cronulla Beach), and we'll light candles on the memorial to our local girls killed at Kuta.
Wes
However, if he says who he is????? Too bad his views couldnt be forwarded on to his CSM, or worse his 'mates'
Cheers (and beers),
Gotta go, caroles on the beach tonight (Dunningham Park, Cronulla Beach), and we'll light candles on the memorial to our local girls killed at Kuta.
Wes
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Looks like you can hang out with Jeremy Hinzman then.
You're doing your regiment proud....
I take it you werent around when the vast majority of canadians said No to going to iraq then? just in case you werent, yeah, it did happen.
You're doing your regiment proud....
I take it you werent around when the vast majority of canadians said No to going to iraq then? just in case you werent, yeah, it did happen.
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I must have been sick that day. Nobody asked me.jmackenzie_15 said:
However, you've missed his point (and ignored others that have raised this point). You are a member of the CF, and you have told us you will jump ship if you don't agree with the political arguments behind a mission that the CF deploys on.
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If these posters are examples of the reasoning against the war in Iraq, how do you think these people will respond to nuclear provocation by Iran or North Korea? I can see the tie in to the "What's wrong with University" thread already...
Wes, you are dealing with another "Disillusioned", who will ignore or deny any fact, argument or proof you might care to bring to the table. I thought of one of the first Westerners to be publicly beheaded for TV; Daniel Pearl, a journalist who thought that his "rapport" and "understanding" of the jihadi viewpoint would gain him access. What he failed to realize until he was dragged out of the car was that the Jihadis did not care about his sympathy of point of view, to them he was only an American and a Jew, and the only point they had for him was at the end of a knife.
It is my devout hope that people like "Disillusioned" or your new friend NEVER are subjected to such barbaric treatment, but people like us will have to hold their hands and protect them from traffic and matches until such time as they learn. This must be the real definition of the "Nanny State".
Wes, you are dealing with another "Disillusioned", who will ignore or deny any fact, argument or proof you might care to bring to the table. I thought of one of the first Westerners to be publicly beheaded for TV; Daniel Pearl, a journalist who thought that his "rapport" and "understanding" of the jihadi viewpoint would gain him access. What he failed to realize until he was dragged out of the car was that the Jihadis did not care about his sympathy of point of view, to them he was only an American and a Jew, and the only point they had for him was at the end of a knife.
It is my devout hope that people like "Disillusioned" or your new friend NEVER are subjected to such barbaric treatment, but people like us will have to hold their hands and protect them from traffic and matches until such time as they learn. This must be the real definition of the "Nanny State".
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I would rather jump ship, but i wouldnt
even though we will never send combat troops to iraq.You can write it down.Not unless theres some kind of crisis that requires UN intervention.If the UN decrees it as being necessary, then I will support it and trust in their wisdom.Im not a fan of the cowboy gung ho invade and bomb cities on tv during primetime CNN tactic the americans have adopted.
Not to hark on the troops, i love alot of those guys and its a shame theyre being wasted.
even though we will never send combat troops to iraq.You can write it down.Not unless theres some kind of crisis that requires UN intervention.If the UN decrees it as being necessary, then I will support it and trust in their wisdom.Im not a fan of the cowboy gung ho invade and bomb cities on tv during primetime CNN tactic the americans have adopted.
Not to hark on the troops, i love alot of those guys and its a shame theyre being wasted.
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jmackenzie_15 said:
Actually, I was deployed abroad.
However, what does that have to do with the fact that you're willing to sell your teammates out because of your political (mis)conceptions. Reading through your posts on this thread, I've noticed you've brought up:
1) The notion of invading Saudi Arabia.
2) The notion of Yankee Imperialists hungry for Oil.
3) Several misconceptions of the current geopolitical situation.
Something tells me that you have only a vague understanding of the concepts you are trying to debate here.
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for the record, my arguments were nevre taken seriously to begin with.
secondly, Im inclined to trust in the United Nations security council over donald rumsfeld, im sorry I dont share your sense of... however the hell it is you guys 'think'. catch yah later.
secondly, Im inclined to trust in the United Nations security council over donald rumsfeld, im sorry I dont share your sense of... however the hell it is you guys 'think'. catch yah later.
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jmackenzie_15 said:
WASTED! WASTED! - Shame on ya! I can't believe what I just read!
You are nothing but a fu**ing COWARD! You make me want to vomit!
Get bloody rooted! And get off this great site!
Now I am totally disgusted, too bad ya didnt live local!
Out!
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mackenzie,
Son, and I can call you son, I'm old enough to be your father, you have dodged the "Egypt and Syria issue" due to a diversion. I called you "young feller' 'cause that gives you an out for not knowing yer arse from yer boots.
There may well be an argument against Canadian participation in Iraq, but you aren't making it.
Maybe quoting a Star Wars character implies a lack of maturity on my part. Hell, I usually think of myself a a big kid (my wife is the one who stops me from buying the BMW M3 cabriolet). Whatever - as your genration might say.
Anyway, young feller, any comments on my points, or are you the typical 18 y/o who can't make an argument to save his life? Wanna get into a logical fallacy argument with the likes of me (a 40-something soldier with spotty university education)?
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Son, and I can call you son, I'm old enough to be your father, you have dodged the "Egypt and Syria issue" due to a diversion. I called you "young feller' 'cause that gives you an out for not knowing yer arse from yer boots.
There may well be an argument against Canadian participation in Iraq, but you aren't making it.
Maybe quoting a Star Wars character implies a lack of maturity on my part. Hell, I usually think of myself a a big kid (my wife is the one who stops me from buying the BMW M3 cabriolet). Whatever - as your genration might say.
Anyway, young feller, any comments on my points, or are you the typical 18 y/o who can't make an argument to save his life? Wanna get into a logical fallacy argument with the likes of me (a 40-something soldier with spotty university education)?
Acorn
Well, after reading this thread, ill offer my oppinon.
I would agree with sending Canadian troops to Iraq, IF AND I MEAN IF, the U.N. assumes controll of military and reconstruction operations. I would prefere to see a similar operation to the suez crises, a replacement of american troops by U.N. troops. Now, i recognize the U.S. cant leave Iraq prematurly nor can we (the world) watch the U.S. waste billions and destroy its economy, and thus bringing the world into an economic recession.
Now, the U.S. invaded Iraq for all the wrong reasons. Hell, more good would have been done by invading Iran, they are the ones with a real nucleur weapons program.
I would agree with sending Canadian troops to Iraq, IF AND I MEAN IF, the U.N. assumes controll of military and reconstruction operations. I would prefere to see a similar operation to the suez crises, a replacement of american troops by U.N. troops. Now, i recognize the U.S. cant leave Iraq prematurly nor can we (the world) watch the U.S. waste billions and destroy its economy, and thus bringing the world into an economic recession.
Now, the U.S. invaded Iraq for all the wrong reasons. Hell, more good would have been done by invading Iran, they are the ones with a real nucleur weapons program.
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jmackenzie_15 said:
Most of us like to 'think' for ourselves instead of blindly trusting in a moraly bankrupt institution or Rumsfeld. You'd be surprised how different things look when you do a little research and actually take the time to consider what it implies.
Wesley H. Allen said:
Take it easy Wes. "Get bloody rooted", while effectively expressing the way I'm sure many of us feel towards this individual, really isn't very productive.
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