DND 404 - Driver's Licence ( merged )

[Scoobie Newbie]

Code Description
A1 (SC) (SW) (C/ALL) up to 9 passenger
A3 (SC) (SW) (C/ALL) up to 12 passenger
A4 (SC) (SW) (C/ALL) up to 15 passenger
A5 SC,SW,C/ALL, Buses up to 28 passenger
A6 SC,SW,C/ALL, Buses up to 44 passenger
A7 SC,SW,C/ALL, all Buses
A10 LIMO
A11 Bus Mobile Recruiting
A12 Bus (with wheelchair accessibility)
B1 Vehicle (up to and including 1½ ton capacity)
B2 Vehicle (3 ton capacity)
B3 Vehicle (up to and including 5 ton capacity)
B4 Vehicle (up to and including 10 ton capacity)
B5 Tractor Trailer (all combinations)
B10 Light/Heavy Vehicle Recovery Commercial
B11 Vehicle (2 ton capacity)
B12 MSV (5 ton, T/T combination, ECC 148104 and 155101)
B13 Truck PLS S/C (non-HLVW)
B14 Flatbed Truck (17 ton, 20 ft, 6X6)
B15 Truck Chassis (ECC 144301 & 149301 only)
B16 Dolly Trailer (front, tandem axle, 3628 kg)
B17 Flatbed Truck (26 ft, 6x4, GVWR, up to 60,000 lbs)
B48 Zamboni
C1 Vehicle (up to and including 1¼ ton)
C3 SMP Vehicle ( up to 5 ton, not allocated)
C5 Vehicle (up to and including 10 ton SMP)
C10 Cougar , Grizzly
C11 Lynx
C12 Bison (all configurations except ambulance)
C13 Coyote (all configurations except ambulance)
C14 LAV III (all configurations)
C15 HLVW Refueller (10000 litres)
C16 HLVW Refueller (7000 litres)
C17 Bison (ambulance configuration)
C18 LIGHT ARMOURED VEHICLE, MAINTENANCE AND RECOVERY  VEHICLE, WHEELED, 8X
C19 105 MM (towed) NOT USED.  REPLACED WITH T13
C20 M-109 (self-propelled)
C21 Leopard Tank
C22 Tank, Bridgelayer
C23 Armoured Personnel Carrier (M113)
C24 Armoured Cargo Carrier (M548)
C25 Armoured Command Post (M577)
C26 Armoured Personnel Carrier (M113) Dozer
C27 Tracked Light Armoured Vehicle (TLAV)
C28 Armoured Maintenance Vehicle (tracked M113, remote weapon system)
C29 LIGHT ARMOURED VEHICLE, BISON (LE),  COMMAND, CONTROL, COMM. AND INTELLIGENCE
C30 Personnel/Cargo Carrier (BV206)
C31 Command Post Carrier (BV2061)
C32 Tow Missile Carrier (BV2063)
C40 Tractor Trailer (all combinations SMP)
C41 Armour Vehicle Mine Resistant
C42 Wrecker (5 ton)
C43 Wrecker (10 ton)
C44 Husky
C45 ARV (light tracked)
C46 ARV (heavy tracked)
C47 Remote Mine-Clearing Vehicle (Mini Flail)
C48 Armour Vehicle Mine-Clearing
C49 Heavy Engineer Support Vehicle (remote controlled)
C50 Tank Transporter
C51 LUVW
C52 LUVW MILCOTS
C53 Medium Logistics Vehicle Wheeled (MLVW)
C54 Heavy Logistics Vehicles Wheeled (HLVW)
C60 ILTIS (all configurations)
C61 CJ-7/HMMWV (¼ ton)
C62 LSVW (all configurations)
C63 HLVW Truck (16 ton, PLS)
C64 HLVW Medium Floating Bridge (BBE)
C65 ARMOURED ENGINEER VEH
C70 Ambulance SMP (up to including 1 ton)
C71 Ambulance LSVW
D1 Refuelling Vehicle (up to 7000 litres)
D2 Refuelling Vehicle (up to 18000 litres)
D3 Refuelling Vehicle (up to 36000 litres)
D10 Aircraft Towing Tractor (light, mule)
D11 Aircraft Towing Tractor (heavy, mule)
D12 Aircraft De-Icer
D13 Aircraft Stairs Truck
D14 Aircraft Lift Platform
D15 Food Servicing Truck (van hoisting body)
D16 Airfield Crash Crane
D17 Conveyer Loader A/C (self propelled)
E1 Dump Truck (up to and including 4 cz)
E2 Dump Truck (up to and including 7 cz)
E3 Dump Truck (up to and including 10 cz)
E4 Truck/Tractor (6X6, DED, 50 ton GCWR)
E5 Dump Truck (heavy duty, 6X6, tandem, 7.7 cz)
E6 Dump Truck (heavy duty, single wheel, snowplow, one way)
E10 Agricultural and Industrial Tractors (with attachments)
E14 Truck/Tractor (6X6, DED, 50 ton, GCWR)
E20 Runway Sweeper (towed)
E21 Snowplow
E22 Snowplow/Dump Truck (heavy duty 7.8 to 12 cz)
E23 Snowblower (all configurations)
E24 Salt, Sand and Chemical Spreader
E25 Runway Sweeper (self-propelled)
E26 Street Sweeper
F1 Warehouse Lift Platform
F3 Forklift (up to and including 4000 lbs)
F4 Forklift (up to and including 6000 lbs)
F5 Forklift (all types)
F6 Forklifts (SISU)
F10 Truck bomb lift
F11 Lift (container handling)
F12 Warehouse Tractor
F13 Stock Picker (3000 lbs, wire guided, manual, 18 and 30 feet)
F14 Forklift EE Type (3000 lbs, swing mast one side only, Drexel)
F15 Order Picker M-38 (3000 lbs, swing reach, wire guided, manual)
F16 Stacker/Crane 589 (3000 lbs, rail guided, manual, up to 60 feet)
G1 Fire Truck Pumper
G2 Crash Truck - Basic
G3 Crash Truck (all purpose)
G4 Range Fire Truck
G5 Fire Truck (all types)
G10 Motorcycle
G11 Sled (self-propelled)
G12 Truck Sewage Cleaning
G13 Truck Scissors Lift
G14 Truck Servicing Platform
G15 Floor Scrubber
G16 Crash Ambulance
G17 SC Ambulance
G18 Light Utility Vehicles (ATV)
G19 Carrier (cargo/person, TRKD, snow travel)
G20 Transport cargo terra Tired articulated
G21 Truck Van 1½ ton (explosive containment system)
G22 Truck Mobile Recruiting Office
G23 Light Utility Vehicles (Type Argo and Supercat)
G24 Carrier Ambulance
G26 Truck refuse collection (collector type)
G27 Light Utility Vehicles (Type Ranger, Gator, Kubota, Kawasaki)
G29 Cart Golf
G30 ATV Trail Groomer
H10 Loader Scoop
H11 Front End Loader (with backhoe)
H12 Skid Steer Loader (bobcat style)
H13 RTCH (Rough Terrain Container Handler) Zettlmeyer
H14 Lift King, RTCH (Rough Terrain Container Handler)
H20 Dozer
H21 Excavator
H22 Grader
H23 Ditching machine (Ditch Witch)
H24 Roller (motorized)
H25 Crush/screen/wash plant
H26 Scraper Earth Moving
J1 Crane (up to and including 5 ton)
J2 Crane (up to and including 10 ton)
J3 Crane (up to and including 15 ton)
J4 Crane (up to and including 20 ton)
J5 Crane (all types except aircraft crash)
J11 Crane Truck (up to and including 10 ton)
J12 Crane Truck (up to and including 55 ton)
J13 Crane Truck (56 ton and above)
T1 Trailer (up to 1 ton)
T2 Trailer (up to 1 ½ ton)
T3 Trailer (up to 5 ton)
T4 Trailer (up to 10 ton)
T5 Trailer (up to 15 ton)
T6 Trailer (exceeding 15 ton, non 5th wheel)
T7 Trailer (5th wheel)
T10 Airstream
T11 Roller (towed)
T12 Trailer (forward area refueller)
T13 105 MM (towed)
T14 155 MM (gun towed)
Z1 Zamboni Operator

 

[Scoobie Newbie]

Specialty
A-propane operation
B-air brake
C-dangerous goods
E-DDC
EI-Interactive DDC
F-SBC
G-PDIC
H-Ramp DDC
J-Driver Instructor
K-Driver Examiner
L-Troop Carrier
M-Winter driving program
N-Forklift Operation Course
O-Formal DND driver training
P-Air Brake Endorsement (LAV 3)

Restricitions
1-Must wear corrective lenses
5-Restricted to PDL Licence

 

[Robbie]

Eh Lone Wolf Quagmire, I was just about to sit down and do that.   

Well DS...  I think the Subject question is answered.

Rob

 

[Scoobie Newbie]

No Worries

 

[NewfieNick]

Hello everyone....I am going to introduce myself to you all as Nick from Corner Brook Newfoundland. I currently have my recruiting session this week on Thursday September 27, 2007, and I am very nervous about it, mostly because I would be disapointed if I end up failing my CFAT. I am applying for Armoured Soldier.

I have a question regarding the training. I have searched this forum everywhere and was unable to find the answer I needed. It is to my understanding that for driving on base or what not we are required to have the 404 completed. I do not have my current civil license. My question is; Does the Canadian Forces provide any type of training or testing to help their soldiers obtain their civil licenses? The reason I am asking is because if they can issue you a license to drive a Loepard it would make sence they could possibly be able to train you on something which would include your civil license. Yet again it is probably just a waste of their time/money.

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

Nick

 

[Fishbone Jones]

You didn't search hard enough.

All you need to drive military vehicles is your 404, which you must have. To drive a civie vehicle on base, or anywhere you need a civie license. No. The military doesn't officially train you for your civvie license, however, much of your driver wheeled training will go a long way to help you with it. Except for some stuff like air brake, little is transferable to your civvie license, even then it's up to the provincial office.

When you search, go to the main forum index and do it. Otherwise the search engine will only look in the thread your in at the time.

There's bags of stuff on 404's.

 

[catalyst]

I'm moving to PQ, and I'm going to be getting my probationary licence (most likely).

Will DND issue 404's (with the DDC) to those holding probationary licences?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Your 404 is a Federal DND permit, acceptable in all provinces. It shouldn't make a difference with what province your in. Your civvie license shouldn't even enter into it. Your transport section may require you to do a DIT...... but just to make sure you know the local jurisdiction rules.

 

[geo]

Hmmm...

http://www.saaq.gouv.qc.ca/en/driver_licence/exchange/index.html

To get a Québec driver's licence or to exchange a driver's licence issued outside Québec for a Québec licence, the first step is to contact the SAAQ by telephone to make an appointment.

For the most part, you should be able to get the equivalent permit in Quebec to whatever one you already have from BC.

In Quebec, the probationary licence is valid for 24 months or until age 25, whichever comes first. Like learners, probationary licence holders are subject to a ceiling of four demerit points (VS 15 for regular driver's licence), which triggers licence suspension for three months, extending the probationary period by that amount of time.
A probationary licence holder may not serve as accompanying rider to assist a learner and are subject to a zero alcohol rule.


WRT DND 404s, you are required to present your PDL to your transport NCO/Officer.
You are required to report your PDL suspension if your permit is lifted for whatever reason.

 

[Nfld Sapper]

Also the expiry date for 404's is tied to your provincial drivers license.

Which reminds me I got to renew mine soon ...... there goes 100 bucks.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

WRT DND 404s, you are required to present your PDL to your transport NCO/Officer.
You are required to report your PDL suspension if your permit is lifted for whatever reason.

Providing you have one. It is not a requirement for 404's. It makes things easier for Transport and the holders of the FMS password, and in many cases they'll try make you get one, but you don't need a provincial license to drive a DND vehicle.

 

[geo]

True, you don't really need a PDL to drive CF Vehicles.... I did it that way, got my 404s, DDC & WDC - then went for my PDL.  Quebec gave me a Chauffeurs (class 3) licence for my troubles

 

[Timmy!]

Ah time for a 404 update..


A1, A4, B1, C52, C54, C60, C62, C71, D2, E1, E20, E21, E22, E23, E24, E5, F3, G16, G17, H10, H22 & T3   

 

[BDTyre]

Okay, I'm trying to get on an MLVW course...I have no other driver course, other than a DDC (with no way of proving it since they seemingly misfiled everyone's paperwork).  I have a civy license.

I've been told that its possible that I need an LSVW qualification first.  Can anyone confirm/deny this?

 

[Fdtrucker]

If you can remember the name of the instructor that did your DDC he/she should be able to verify that it was completed and possibly your card number and check on the Licensing NCO/MSE Safety. If they are switched on then they could have a copy of the nominal roll (Class A sign in Sheet). If it was misfiled then there would be others is the same boat as you are. You don't require to take a LSVW course before going on the MLVW. If you get the ML first then whebn you go on the LS or LU crses you will only require to drive 300 kms vice the 500 kms if you don't take the ML first.

 

[Timmy!]

CanadianTire, can your local TN Rep bring up your 416's? Or is your name/service number not in the FMS program?
Do you have any paper work from the DDC? ie Driver Information Test (DIT) or some sort of PO check test?

Wish you the best of luck,
Regards
Schultz

 

[BDTyre]

Heh...that's way out of my lane.

The only "paperwork" I or any of the other people on my DDC brought out of the course was an Ontario defensive driver's manual.  We had a "PO check" which, from what I remember, was basically a multiple choice Ont. DD test.

The "course WO" is from a different regt....can't remember his name.  My regt. should have a record that I was loaded, but the OPs Sgt. that loaded me and the others from my regiment has since taken a position at Brigade and the odd time I spoke to him about the matter, I was told to wait.  BOR has no clue about it...they apparently weren't even aware the course took place.  I'm not the only one in my regiment who hasn't received any sort of DDC certificate or license.  I know at least one of the people on the course is headed overseas, as such I haven't had the opportunity to ask him if he's got anything from the course.

On the other hand, I'm not entirely opposed to having to take the course again...a day of pay for a common sense course?  Why not?

 

[PtePwnage]

Hey,
I'm going to be taking the test for my Milcots Qual tomorrow, are there any tips anyone can give me?
Does anyone have a link, or a copy, of the evaluation grid they use? I've misplaced the one i received and it might be useful.

 

[Nfld Sapper]

Test form is the standard ones used for all MSE Tests.

 

[PtePwnage]

Is there anywhere I could obtain a copy of said test?