Understood thanks.Loachman said:The "frame or receiver" is what legally constitutes the pistol. Everything else is an uncontrolled part. Those you can move without an ATT. The frame or receiver, no.
Magazines have no equivalent to a "frame or receiver" within the law. All components are uncontrolled parts when separated.
ObedientiaZelum said:A 30 round AR 15 magazine in 4 pieces (body, spring, floor plate and cartridge thingie) is illegal?
Robert0288 said:Just to add to the confusion. An AR15 mag designed to go in a LAR-15 pistol can be pinned to 10 rounds, because it's a pistol mag and not a rifle mag despite being able to fit in both.
recceguy said:LAR-15 mags for the pistol are manufactured as ten round mags, for the pistol. Not pinned 30's, but only manufactured to hold ten. Being designed for the pistol, as imprinted on the magazine by the manufacturer, they are legal 10 round pistol mags that will fit the AR15 series of rifles.
Colin P said:I just love explaining this to cops, who are desperately seeking some form of logic in all of it.
Colin P said:and the reverse is I cannot have a 10rd pistol mag marked "Storm" in my CX-4 Storm as it is a prohibited device, but I can have the same mag, unnamed in 10rds in my Storm. I just love explaining this to cops, who are desperately seeking some form of logic in all of it.
I am trying to dig up the court case I mentioned earlier
Colin P said:and the reverse is I cannot have a 10rd pistol mag marked "Storm" in my CX-4 Storm as it is a prohibited device
recceguy said:Most RPAL and PAL holders have a hard enough time figuring out the laws. They are incomprehensible to the layman
This includes most cops. Most cops are not PAL or RPAL holders and have never had the training
Which explains why they know very little about storage, transportation or ammunition laws. They also have almost no understanding of firearms classification beyond a hunting shotgun and a handgun.
Unfortunately you are incorrectLoachman said:The "frame or receiver" is what legally constitutes the pistol. Everything else is an uncontrolled part. Those you can move without an ATT. The frame or receiver, no.
Magazines have no equivalent to a "frame or receiver" within the law. All components are uncontrolled parts when separated.
ObedientiaZelum said:huh? A magazine with Storm written on it is illegal?
WR said:Unfortunately you are incorrect
http://www.bcjustice.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8412:r-v-cancade-being-in-possession-of-a-not-fully-operational-illegal-cartridge-magazine-court-of-appeal-for-british-columbia&catid=385:criminal-08&Itemid=1648
Case law dictates that if the parts can be assembled they are considered prohibited. You have the magazine, but not the base plate or spring, the magazine is still considered prohibited as it is assumed you can reassemble it with the missing components.
The %3-5 of criminals ruin it for the legal/lawful owner.