Damaged/Destroyed Vehicles

[George Wallace]

Yeah that's a good question? It seems all that is flipping and getting damaged are the LAV III's, think we need to upgrade the maintenance on the armour?

I don't know how to interpret this post?  Are you within your Lanes?

 

[Dissident]

On a tangent:

This seems like a good way to start treating veh procurements a little differently. Instead of doing major life altering multy million dollar whole fleet replacing of specific veh, maybe we should start looking at replacing the current Gwagon with a next generation one, once a critical mass number of veh have become casulties.

I know this is way out of my payrate/experience, but I am not the first one to come up with this idea...

 

[FormerHorseGuard]

I read in the psot that  50 new  trucks/ jeep like machines are being built in South Africa for use in the Combat zones. they are built to handle mines and other IEDs, first ones should be on the ground in May of this year, 25 are being made now and another 25 to come later. Problems waas getting them added to the current production line. I read that in the National Post today. so replacements are on order for the Gwagon

 

[Wookilar]

No, these are the Mamba (or whatever we're calling them now). Been around for years. Good vehicles, but not meant to replace G Wagons.

 

[Scoobie Newbie]

Actually they are the Nyala which are from all accounts an upgraded Mamba.

 

[Teddy Ruxpin]

They're Nyalas, as CFL points out; however, as Wookilar mentions they've been around (in very small numbers) for a few years.  The new vehicles have been fitted with a remote weapons system that (if the propaganda is to be believed - I personally have no idea) is very effective.  IIRC, they'll be used as patrol vehicles, replacing armoured G-Wagons in this role.  50 were bought, of which a significant number are currently in Kandahar.

 

[GAP]

What are we doing to replenish the LAV III's that are damaged?

I sent an email to MND asking this, simply because, while I have been looking around for something, I have seen nothing that addresses the issue.

If I am out lunch...correct me.

 

[KevinB]

Going Light  ;D

 

[MJP]

Here is a thread on the subject

http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/42188.0.html

But in short they are drawn from stocks in Canada.

 

[GAP]

Here is a thread on the subject

http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/42188.0.html

But in short they are drawn from stocks in Canada.

But it seems to end there...even those have to be replenished as some point.

Mods can merg this with the original thread if they want...sorry I didn't see it.

 

[MJP]

But it's a government decision....I'm sure the the military has to ask for them as well.  Maybe we have a  neverending Op Stock stashed away somewhere

Don't you have a business to run?  Get off the computer and go to work!

 

[GAP]

But it's a government decision....I'm sure the the military has to ask for them as well.  Maybe we have a  neverending Op Stock stashed away somewhere

Don't you have a business to run?  Get of the computer and go to work!

This is my job...I worked for 1/2 hour this morning (I went down and got donuts too, I will have you know!!) and am exhausted.... sigh...youth... ;D

 

[Pea]

What is this, Family Feud?  Feels like a Game Show Network re-run.  ;D

Haha Gap.. Too funny.

 

[GAP]

What is this, Family Feud?  Feels like a Game Show Network re-run.  ;D

Haha Gap.. Too funny.

Unfortunately, he knows what my workday entails

He has this "work ethic" thingy....don't know where it comes from.....

but maybe he's learned that old age and treachery will outdo youth and enthusiasm.... I think  ;D

 

[Scoobie Newbie]

The unlimited stock you refer to is the 600 plus veh rusting in Wainwright.

 

[a_majoor]

GD has a program to "zero time" Strykers returning from Iraq, and several other LAV stakeholders are looking for upgrades and even increasing stocks of older versions of the LAV (USMC and Saudi National Guard are apparently looking at this for LAV 25 varients). By extension, the CF can get the remaining LAVs "Zero timed", and perhaps with the assembly line being reopened for that purpose getting some new build replacements might be possible.

We could also tag on to the other forces production runs, although logistically we would be adding new and different vehicles to the fleet (LAV 25's are only superficially similar to Coyotes and Bisons, and Strykers do not mount the Delco 25mm turret, for example).

These are not ideal solutions, but maybe some variations of these ideas could get us back up to speed on the fleet stockpile.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

The unlimited stock you refer to is the 600 plus veh rusting in Wainwright.

Are these all LAV III's or earlier?

Consumption and destruction of whole vehicles on a regular basis does appear to been part of the original planning.

 

[Scoobie Newbie]

There are stocks of every vehicle we have out there and a lot of the time the are rusting away because there isn't enough pers to maintain them all and they are stored outside.  I think I may have been a little rash when I said 600 though.

 

[Teddy Ruxpin]

I think I may have been a little rash when I said 600 though.

Depends on the type.  If you're counting everything, including trailers, you're well over 700 vehicles in Wainwright for CMTC.

 

[McG]

We could also tag on to the other forces production runs, although logistically we would be adding new and different vehicles to the fleet (LAV 25's are only superficially similar to Coyotes and Bisons, and Strykers do not mount the Delco 25mm turret, for example).

This would still be similar vehicles.  We could even look at turretless LAV IIIs to replace lost Bisons.