Conservative minority government
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greydak said:
Making sure any potential Defence Minister (cough O'Connor cough) doesn't can our current CDS, and doesn't neuter JTF2.
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Well Martin conceeded defeat and announced he will NOT be leading the liberals in the next election. I think if as many of the pundits say will happen, Michael Ignatieff will be a nice target for the Conservatives in the next election. They would be able to paint him in the same light as Harper (and Day, and Manning) were painted. I mean the dude hasn't even been in the country for 30 years, who knows what kind of "hidden agendas" he has.
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Hatchet Man said:
If anyone tries to can Hiller, they are in for a lot of trouble :rage:
Jarnhamar
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I'm glad the Conservatives have won. I think it was time we had a change and the liberals were getting a little too comfortable in power and it was obvious from all the fraud and investigations.
It makes me sad that the liberals are (in my opinion) going to focus on fucking over the Conservatives instead of working for a better Canada.
They've wasted enough money. I think they should give it a break and let the Conservatives do their thing.
I'm so amazed at how the liberals can commit such blatant fraudulent acts and STILL get so many votes.
It makes me sad that the liberals are (in my opinion) going to focus on fucking over the Conservatives instead of working for a better Canada.
They've wasted enough money. I think they should give it a break and let the Conservatives do their thing.
I'm so amazed at how the liberals can commit such blatant fraudulent acts and STILL get so many votes.
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Docherty said:
If Hiller is asking for it, probally. But I think we will see plenty of movement on defense issues and procuring for the DND. The Conservatives are known to be big on defense.
Hmmm...
It appears the Libs lost a considerable number of their Cabinet as well. That, combined with the need to select a new leader, might keep them tied up for a good period of time. I think there's also some hope that Harper and crew will govern moderately enough that the Liberal scare campaign will lose a lot of strength. One of their aces was that they could paint the Tories as a really nasty bunch of guys and voters had no way of knowing how much was fact or fiction. Now the Tories have some time to disprove it.
It appears the Libs lost a considerable number of their Cabinet as well. That, combined with the need to select a new leader, might keep them tied up for a good period of time. I think there's also some hope that Harper and crew will govern moderately enough that the Liberal scare campaign will lose a lot of strength. One of their aces was that they could paint the Tories as a really nasty bunch of guys and voters had no way of knowing how much was fact or fiction. Now the Tories have some time to disprove it.
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GST cut from 7 to 6% according to Harper
"The Conservatives are known to be big on defense."
- Not always:
1. Chopped AVRO Arrow. Lost the next election.
2. Backed away from putting nukes on the Honest John missles and BOMARC missles they had already bought. Pearson said he would do it and so one the next election.
3. Chopped 1CAG/4 CMBG and closed CFE. Then lost the next election.
Shall I continue?
;D
Tom
- Not always:
1. Chopped AVRO Arrow. Lost the next election.
2. Backed away from putting nukes on the Honest John missles and BOMARC missles they had already bought. Pearson said he would do it and so one the next election.
3. Chopped 1CAG/4 CMBG and closed CFE. Then lost the next election.
Shall I continue?
;D
Tom
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CFL said:
When the annoucements were first made, thats what he said 7-6 immediately then down to 5 over the life of the government (this is of course assuming they were going to win a majority mandate).
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To counter-balance that:
1. Purchased the current fleet of CF-18 Hornets to replace the ageing existing fighters
2. Ordered the current Halifax-class frigate fleet to replace the ageing destroyer escorts
3. Purchased the Oberon-class submarines that served us well for almost 35 years
So their more current history is bigger on defense. I see the Conservatives as a can-do type on defense issues.
1. Purchased the current fleet of CF-18 Hornets to replace the ageing existing fighters
2. Ordered the current Halifax-class frigate fleet to replace the ageing destroyer escorts
3. Purchased the Oberon-class submarines that served us well for almost 35 years
So their more current history is bigger on defense. I see the Conservatives as a can-do type on defense issues.
"counter-balance that:
1. Purchased the current fleet of CF-18 Hornets to replace the ageing existing fighters
2. Ordered the current Halifax-class frigate fleet to replace the ageing destroyer escorts
3. Purchased the Oberon-class submarines that served us well for almost 35 years
So their more current history is bigger on defense. I see the Conservatives as a can-do type on defense issues."
NFA project (New Fighter Aircraft) started under Trudeau.
CPF project started under Trudeau.
Oberon project started under Pearson.
Though, my memory may be failing me. Remember that on major projects, the party that starts and funds the program may not be the party that delivers.
Oh, I forgot, 'folded the Leo Tank replacement project' in the 80s.
Tom
1. Purchased the current fleet of CF-18 Hornets to replace the ageing existing fighters
2. Ordered the current Halifax-class frigate fleet to replace the ageing destroyer escorts
3. Purchased the Oberon-class submarines that served us well for almost 35 years
So their more current history is bigger on defense. I see the Conservatives as a can-do type on defense issues."
NFA project (New Fighter Aircraft) started under Trudeau.
CPF project started under Trudeau.
Oberon project started under Pearson.
Though, my memory may be failing me. Remember that on major projects, the party that starts and funds the program may not be the party that delivers.
Oh, I forgot, 'folded the Leo Tank replacement project' in the 80s.
Tom
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TCBF said:
Not that I agree, however, a policy professor commented that the Conservative agenda can still be pursued to a large extent because many policy decisions are done by executive decision, not a vote in parliament (case in point: Kyoto was only put to a vote in the House because the Liberal leadership wanted to earn brownie-points with certain segments of the population). The only problem is that if the Conservatives try to get too much done too fast they may face a confidence motion brought forward by the opposition.
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FINALLY. It's not what I was hoping for. I was hoping for a Majority or at least a lesser minority like 140 seats or so but never the Less, They still won and it's a damn good day.
Quebec was especially a shocker for the conservatives as most predicted maybe 2 or 3 seats might go Conservative. They Got 10. The Bloc was also supposed to sweap Quebec and leave maybe a handful of seats under the Liberals. they ended up lossing a few seats instead of gaining them. So all in all not a bad result. The conservatives are in power the Seperatist movement lost some seats so it's also a win for Federalism as well. If the conservatives perform well and follow through with their promises I would imagine The Bloc will lose many more seats come the next election.
I hope the Conservatives can manage to get a few things done before we get into another election ( im thinkin a year). The best bet for the tories is to do things slowly and not to fast as to much change to fast might yield unfavourable results come the next election. We have to bring Canada out of a Liberal country and into a more potent, respect player on the world stage. It cant be done all at once to quickly as people will get scared but alittle here and there over time will slowly ease people into the Idea of the not so Left wing.
Congrats to the NDP as well. they almost doubled their caucaus.
Quebec was especially a shocker for the conservatives as most predicted maybe 2 or 3 seats might go Conservative. They Got 10. The Bloc was also supposed to sweap Quebec and leave maybe a handful of seats under the Liberals. they ended up lossing a few seats instead of gaining them. So all in all not a bad result. The conservatives are in power the Seperatist movement lost some seats so it's also a win for Federalism as well. If the conservatives perform well and follow through with their promises I would imagine The Bloc will lose many more seats come the next election.
I hope the Conservatives can manage to get a few things done before we get into another election ( im thinkin a year). The best bet for the tories is to do things slowly and not to fast as to much change to fast might yield unfavourable results come the next election. We have to bring Canada out of a Liberal country and into a more potent, respect player on the world stage. It cant be done all at once to quickly as people will get scared but alittle here and there over time will slowly ease people into the Idea of the not so Left wing.
Congrats to the NDP as well. they almost doubled their caucaus.
