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Culture plays a huge part here. American culture is firmly based on Protestant Dissenters who fled England during the late 1600's and the enlightenment thinkers (who provided the intellectual foundation of the Republic). This is not only a strong and deep foundation, but also was widely disseminated by schooling and popular culture even into the recent past, so it is still a living part of the American culture.

This may explain the strong reaction to attempts to displace it, and the visceral dislike for such things as "Progressiveism" or the "New Deal" and going forward, since the intellectual and cultural roots of such ideas are not at all related to Protestant Dissent OR Enlightenment philosophy (the New Deal was explicitly modeled after Italian Fascism, for example, and Progressiveism seems to have roots in 19th century German philosophy). While the vast majority of people are not going to think of things this way, the roots of their cultural values reach back to these ideas. Understand the ideas and you will understand the people.

Samual Huntington's book "Who Are We" goes into this in great depth.

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Thucydides said:
Culture plays a huge part here. American culture is firmly based on Protestant Dissenters who fled England Great Britain and The Continent (Scotland, Cumbria, Northumbria, the Rhein Palatinate, Cevennes, Savoy, the Languedoc and the Low Countries) via Protestant England, during the late 1600's reign of the Sun King and his Grandson, and the enlightenment thinkers (who provided the intellectual foundation of the Republic). This is not only a strong a deep foundation, but also was widely disseminated by schooling and popular culture even into the recent past, so it is still a living part of the American culture.

This may explain the strong reaction to attempts to displace it, and the visceral dislike for such things as "Progressiveism" or the "New Deal" and going forward, since the intellectual and cultural roots of shuch ideas are not at all related to Protestant Dissent OR Enlightenment philosophy (the New Deal was explicitly modeled after Italian Fascism, for example, and Progressiveism seems to have roots in 19th century German philosophy). While the vast majority of people are not going to think of things this way, the roots of their cultural values reach back to these ideas. Understand the ideas and you will understand the people.

Samual Huntington's book "Who Are We" goes into this in great depth.

A quibble.

The one thing that I continue to find interesting is how often the propaganda pamphlets of the wars of the Louis's made reference to Protestants rallying to bring down the forces of the Papists, even as the Papists were fighting it out between Louis's Bourbon Gallicans and the Hapsburg's Romans, and how seldom the propaganda referred to any nations at all.  For examples look at some of the plates in Montcalm and Wolfe by Francis Parkman.

The Union Jack and the Scarlet coat were merely the symbols around which the Protestants of Europe rallied to oppose Louis XIV and XV.  (And through which the protestant banks of Europe funneled their cash).

Yes England (and Lowland Scotland) were the champions of both Protestantism and the Enlightenment but their success was due in no small measure to how widely the message of individualism resonated.

By the way Rousseau, who the French claim, would not have been considered French in his day.  He was a Swiss Huguenot from Geneva.  He owes little to the salons of Paris and much to Calvin (and Knox).



 
What do the rest of you think of British Tory politician and London mayor Boris Johnson's comments below?

While I agree to an extent that achieving true economic equality is somewhat unrealistic as Johnson said, didn't Winston Churchill once say that in a war context, "...it costs nothing to be nice"?  ;D

National Post

Some people are too stupid to get ahead, Boris Johnson, London mayor, says, drawing cries of ‘unpleasant elitism’

Economic equality will never be possible because some people are too stupid to get ahead in the modern world, said Boris Johnson, the mayor of London, in a speech that is igniting a wave of criticism.

Nick Clegg, Britain’s deputy prime minister, accused Mr. Johnson of “unpleasant elitism.”

In the speech honouring the work of former Conservative prime minister Margaret Thatcher, Mr. Johnson said natural differences between humans will always mean some will succeed and others fail.


“I am afraid that violent economic centrifuge is operating on human beings who are already very far from equal in raw ability, if not spiritual worth,” he told the Centre for Policy Studies think-tank in London.

“Whatever you may think of the value of IQ tests, it is surely relevant to a conversation about equality that as many as 16% of our species have an IQ below 85, while about 2% have an IQ above 130. The harder you shake the pack, the easier it will be for some cornflakes to get to the top.

“And for one reason or another — boardroom greed or, as I am assured, the natural and god-given talent of boardroom inhabitants — the income gap between the top cornflakes and the bottom cornflakes is getting wider than ever. I stress: I don’t believe that economic equality is possible; indeed, some measure of inequality is essential for the spirit of envy and keeping up with the Joneses that is, like greed, a valuable spur to economic activity.”

Mr. Johnson said more should be done to help talented poor people advance, including state-funded places at private schools.

He warned against persecuting the rich, saying wealth and success should be celebrated. He said the top 0.1% of earners in Britain — 29,000 people — contributed 14% of the government’s total revenues from income tax.

“That is an awful lot of schools and roads and hospitals that are being paid for by the super-rich. So why, I asked innocently, are they so despicable in the eyes of all decent British people?

“People aren’t remotely interested in how much tax these characters pay. That does nothing to palliate their primary offence, which is to be so stonkingly and in their view emetically rich.”

But Mr. Johnson also said the successful owed a duty to those less well off.

“I hope that this time the Gordon Gekkos of London are conspicuous not just for their greed … as for what they give and do for the rest of the population,” he said, referencing Michael Douglas’s character in the movie Wall Street.

In a furious response, Mr. Clegg said, “Much as he is a funny and engaging guy, I have to say these comments reveal a fairly unpleasant, careless elitism that somehow suggests that we should give up on a whole swath of our fellow citizens.”

The Liberal Democratic politician told a London radio station by using the term “species” Mr. Johnson was likening people to dogs.

Mr. Clegg, whose party governs in coalition with Mr. Cameron’s Conservatives, added, “The danger is if you start taking such a deterministic view of people and start saying because they’ve got a number attached to them, in this case an IQ number, somehow they’re not really going to rise to top of the cornflake packet — that is complete anathema to everything I’ve always stood for in politics. You’ve got to try and do more to instil greater opportunity in society.”


David Lammy, a possible contender for the mayor’s job in 2016, described Mr. Johnson’s remarks as insulting to people on low wages.

“I don’t think that’s just careless. I think it’s an insult,” he told the BBC.


“It’s an insult to cleaners in London, to people who are home carers in London, people who are [on] minimum wage, giving them the suggestion that they are sort of bottom of the cornflake packet. That’s not the sort of society that I thought we wanted to live in.

“It’s extraordinary for a mayor, who should be for all of London, to think it’s all right to glorify greed – a greed that has brought a banking collapse and caused misery and hardship to many Londoners, particularly to young people who can’t get on the housing ladder.”
 
Boris merely states a simple truism.  Sooner his honesty that Clegg's smarm any day.  Clegg believes that he is of the elite but refuses to utter the phrase.  Instead he (and his wife) "suffer" the indigent while never associating with them.

The leftists win by pretending that they can, and that they want to, make all right with the world, and deliver every street sweeper Buckingham Palace.

Boris wasn't being unpleasant.  He was being honest.
 
Kirkhill said:
Yes England (and Lowland Scotland) were the champions of both Protestantism and the Enlightenment but their success was due in no small measure to how widely the message of individualism resonated.

I would suggest that once again we are dealing with cultural bias here. Japanese culture does not celebrate individualism, nor does it resonate. Russian and Islamic cultures do not either, which may have a lot to do with the outcomes of the "Fall of the Wall" (swapping a political oligarchy for a criminal one) or the ultimate failure of President George W Bush's ideal that everyone wanted liberty, and crushing a dictator like Saddam Hussein like a bug would unleash  a wave of freedom seekers in the Middle East. While he certainly destabilized the equilibrium of the region, I think we can all agree that the outcome both in Iraq and across the region (The Arab Spring) were not exactly resounding paeans to individual liberty.

I agree with Edward that the circumstances for individual liberty and the idea that people should live lives according to the dictates of their own conscious were the end results of centuries of evolution in Britian, going back (formally) to the Magna Carta, and perhaps informally for hundreds if not thousands of years before. How far back, and which threads lead to the present are interesting questions.

This also is in line with the idea that to create true liberal democratic nations it is not enough that people vote, there must be strong institutions that allow the will of the people to be exercised, and they must exist and function across time and throughout the polity. Institutions, institutional legitimacy and functionality do not spring full grown from the head of Zeus, they must be created and nurtured, and allowed to adapt and evolve as the society does as well.
 
I agree that individualism is not a universal trait.  Many societies do indeed hold the group in higher regard than the individual.

Equally I agree that there certainly was something "in the water" that allowed individualism to flourish in Britain (selected parts - one of which, and most importantly, was London).

But I am convincing myself, more and more, that some of the key elements in the development of the British culture are to be found in the Things and Witans of the northern cultures as well as in that common piratical/commercial culture of the Atlantic Coast and North Sea. 

Apparently the way to escape the man on the white horse is by running away to sea.
 
>The leftists win by pretending that they can, and that they want to, make all right with the world, and deliver every street sweeper Buckingham Palace.

George Orwell wrote some of the best arguments promoting Socialism (as he wrote it) that I have read; briefly, he thought Socialism had to lay claim to being _the_ doctrine for liberty and justice, to set it apart from Fascism in particular.  How can a reasonable person argue against a doctrine that states its aim as the delivery of liberty _and_ justice?

However, he gave inadequate weight to the problem that liberty and justice are - given human beings as currently constituted - incompatible.  To understand this, it may help to substitute "equality" for "justice".  There is a distinct and powerful tension between liberty and equality.  Where people are freer to do as they please, there will be less equality.  Conversely, more equality can be obtained only at the price of compulsion (less freedom).

With seventy-odd years of hindsight, it is easier to see that liberty is readily obtained - just remove constraints - and justice (equality) is difficult to obtain.  Orwell understood well enough how events did and would unfold ("Animal Farm"), but nevertheless expressed a view that smacks of wanting to have the cake while eating it (the purity of pursuing Socialist ideals with none of the taint of responsibility for the governments which actually result).  The pursuit of Socialist ideals promotes the conditions for the rise of the alternative of Fascism, among others.  (See Chavez, Hugo and Mussolini, Benito for how close socialism and fascism - stripped of imagined ideals and reduced to practical implementation - really are.)  We can change the bosses, but we can't remove them entirely.  So Socialism (and Communism) will never really be tried, yet their proponents will persist in trying to distance themselves from the other members of the family of statist/collectivist doctrines.

Conservativism addresses the pursuit of liberty and equality by a different path: place less emphasis on closing the relative gap, and more on raising the absolute thresholds ("wealthy" and "middle class" and "poor").  Conservativism has an image problem chiefly because of anti-liberal strains of social conservativism and the tendency of people to be more dissatisfied by the perception of how they stand in relation to others than by the perception of how they stand in relation to stark poverty.
 
Orwell also demonstrated in both Animal Farm and 1984 the eventual outcome of Socialism and similar ideologies. I would agree with your first contention of his writing, but after his experiences in the Spanish Civil War he dramatically changed his tune.
 
Orwell was a socialist until the day he died. He separated totalitarianism from the capitalist/communist spectrum. You can have commie totalitarianism like Stalin or capitalist totalitarianism like Mussolini. The outcome is very similar. Orwell saw that liberty was more important than monetary policy.

Extremism towards either capitalism or communism leads to an unstable system that is unsustainable. Unrestrained capitalism leads to monopolies and plutocracy. Hybrid systems are in place in most developed countries and are much more efficient and stable. Things like healthcare, subsidized education, regulations on banks and breaking up monopolies are pure socialism. The most successful systems use the best ideas of both systems and make incremental changes towards the most efficient solutions to incredibly complex problems.
 
My problem with this whole discussion is that I suspect that few of us agree on what conservatism means.

I do not believe that either Irving or William Kristol or William F Buckley were/are conservatives, not if that word is to have any useful meaning. George Washington was a conservative, ditto Lord Liverpool and, in more modern times, so were CS Lewis and, I think, John F Kennedy. They all shared more, much more, with Edmund Burke ~ the only really important conservative thinker since Confucius ~ than with John Stuart Mill, the last really important liberal thinker.

Conservatism is most emphatically not the opposite of liberalism. Burke saw very real limits to human reason. He believed that both Church and State draw their inspiration from the same divine source and are in a sense inseparable. He suggested that that government derives its authority from ancient innate principles of virtue, articulated in religion, tradition, myth, and folklore, not from any sort of "social contract." Mill and the liberals rejected all that, just as they reject Confucianism. So what is conservatism if not the opposite of Liberalism? It is a belief in the "order of things," as William Cecil, Lord Burghley, used that phrase. Today it is a belief in formal constitutionalism, think of the US Electoral College ~ a highly conservative reaction to the idea of popular democracy. Conservatives are not, necessarily, statists, although most American conservatives and warmongering libertarians like the Kristols, père et fils and Buckley, are; some are, honestly and sincerely wary of the spread of government, recognizing that more and more government does not bring good order or good government. But even principled conservatives, like Lee Hsien Loong, of Singapore, son of Singapore's long serving prime minister Lee Kuan Yew, put great faith in the ability of the government to protect the fundamental rights of the people. Of course principled conservatives believe in far, far fewer fundamental rights than do most liberals. (I, personally, lean pretty far towards the conservatives in that matter.) The opposite of liberal is illiberal which is, by far, the most common political philosophy in the world. Most continental European states, especially the Roman ones - France, Italy, Spain etc - are highly illiberal.

Liberalism is, broadly, a good thing; so is principled conservatism. Both are in short supply in the world. Liberalism is still on top, albeit just barely, in America, Australia, Britain, Canada, Finland, Netherlands, Norway and a few others. Principled conservatism is alive and well, but heavily influenced by illiberalist programmes, in Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore.
 
Thucydides said:
...This also is in line with the idea that to create true liberal democratic nations it is not enough that people vote, there must be strong institutions that allow the will of the people to be exercised, and they must exist and function across time and throughout the polity. Institutions, institutional legitimacy and functionality do not spring full grown from the head of Zeus, they must be created and nurtured, and allowed to adapt and evolve as the society does as well.

And, from time to time, defended against an unholy, insidious creep of the desire by governments (of all stripes...) to have "order" at the price of almost everything else. This "order" is often achieved by creating alternate sources of power away from the elected assemblies, or by demonizing those who question their policies and intentions, or by raising "threats" that are difficult to quantify but inevitably require citizens to surrender more and more liberty and privacy; things which are then difficult to recover.

Brad Sallows said:
...Conservativism addresses the pursuit of liberty and equality by a different path: place less emphasis on closing the relative gap, and more on raising the absolute thresholds ("wealthy" and "middle class" and "poor").  Conservativism has an image problem chiefly because of anti-liberal strains of social conservativism and the tendency of people to be more dissatisfied by the perception of how they stand in relation to others than by the perception of how they stand in relation to stark poverty.

This highlights what I think is an essential fallacy: the idea that we must rush about in a panic because the gap between the highest and lowest income groups has widened.

But, really, so what? To me the things that actually matter are:

-how big and secure is the middle class? If the society is "diamond shaped" (as opposed to "pyramid shaped"), I suggest that it will be a pretty stable and productive society. IMHO it doesn't really matter what the actual incomes are at the top and bottom points of the diamond; and

-what difference does the absolute size of the gap make, as long as the people at the bottom are kept out of the sort of dismal, abject hopeless poverty that becomes a warm pond for crime, gangs and unrest?
 
While this article might also be appropriate for "Deconstructing Progressive Thought", many opponents of modern Conservatism see this as the end state of Conservative thought and action. Read carefully and you see nothing could be further from the truth:

http://www.newgeography.com/content/004073-the-revolt-against-urban-gentry

The Revolt Against Urban Gentry
by Joel Kotkin 11/30/2013

The imminent departure of New York’s Mayor Michael Bloomberg, and his replacement by leftist Bill DeBlasio, represents an urban uprising against the Bloombergian  “luxury city” and the growing income inequality it represents. Bloomberg epitomized an approach that sought to cater  to the rich—most prominently Wall Street—as a means to both finance development growth and collect enough shekels to pay for services needed by the poor.

This approach to urbanism draws some of its inspiration from the likes of Richard Florida, whose “creative class” theories posit the brightest future for “spiky” high cost cities like New York.  But even Florida now admits that what he calls  “America’s new economic geography” provides “ little in the way of trickle-down benefits” to the middle and working classes.   

Some other urbanists don’t even really see this as a problem. Harvard’s Ed Glaeser, a favorite of urban developers, believes De Blasio should celebrate the huge gaps between New York residents as evidence of the city’s appeal; a similar argument was made recently about California by an urban Liberal (and former Oakland Mayor) Jerry Brown, who claimed the state’s highest in the nation poverty rate reflected its “incredible attractiveness”.

Couched in progressive rhetoric, the gentry urbanists embrace an essentially neo-feudalist view that society is divided between “the creative class” and the rest of us. Liberal analyst Thomas Frank suggests that  Florida’s “creative class” is numerically small, unrepresentative and self—referential; he describes them as  “members of the professional-managerial class—each of whom harbors a powerful suspicion that he or she is pretty brilliant as well.”

The Voters rebel.

The revolt against this mentality surfaced first in New York perhaps because the gaps there are so extreme. Wall Streeters partied under Bloomberg, but not everyone fared so well. The once proudly egalitarian city has become the most unequal place in the country, worse even than the most racially divided, backward regions of the southeast.  In New York, the top 1 percent earn roughly twice as much of the local GDP than is earned in the rest of country. The middle class in the city is rapidly becoming vestigial; according to Brookings its share of the city’s population has fallen from 25 percent in 1970s to barely sixteen percent today. 

De Blasio rode this chasm between “the two cities” to Gracie Mansion, but his triumph represents just part of a growing urban lurch to the left. Voters in Seattle, for example, just elected an outright Socialist who promptly called on Boeing workers to take over their factory. More reasonably, she is also campaigning for a $15 an hour minimum wage, a reaction against the surging inequalities in that  historically egalitarian Northwest city.

Similarly  San Franciscans turned down a new luxury condo development along their waterfront, in large part because it was perceived as yet another intrusion of the ultra-rich. Even as the city enjoys its most recent tech bubble, resentment grows between the tech elites, including those traveling on private buses to Silicon Valley, and ordinary San Franciscans, struggling to cope with soaring housing costs. (Interpolation: I suspect this is the sort of thinking that drives votes to Rob Ford in Toronto, or the Reform Party in the 1990's, and Alberta's Wild Rose Alliance today. These are "counter revolutionary" in the sense that they are driven by the other demographic which is not represented in the Urban cores, but who equally feel they are not being represented by their political apparatus.)

The New Urban Demography

Bloomberg’s “luxury city” was ultimately undermined by its own demographic logic. Bloomberg’s gentry urbanist policies have undermined New York’s private sector middle class, a group that was critical to his own early rise to power and even more decisive in electing his predecessor, Rudy Giuliani. This same group of middle class voters, largely clustered in the San Fernando Valley, also drove the election of Richard Riordan in Los Angeles in 1993 and his comfortable re-election four years later. But the private sector middle class

The fading of the old middle class came with the rapid decline of industries, like manufacturing and logistics that once employed them.  Since 2000, the New York metropolitan region has lost some 1.9 million net domestic migrants, the most of any  in the country. $50 billion in lost revenue has bled out of the city along with the people departing. Florida alone, the largest destination has gained almost $15 billion in income. Other major cities, notably Los Angeles and Chicago, have suffered similar losses since the 1970s, notes Brookings, as middle income neighborhoods have declined while both poor and very affluent areas have grown.   

Becoming the ultimate playground to the rich made things worse for most middle class New Yorkers by imposing higher costs, particularly for rents. In fact, controlling for costs the average New York paycheck (costs) is among the lowest in the nation’s 51 largest metro areas, behind not only San Jose, but Houston, Raleigh, and a host of less celebrated burgs. A big part of this is the cost of rents. According to the Center for Housing Policy and National Housing Conference , 31 percent of New York’s working families pay over 50% of their income in rent, well above  the national rate of 24 percent, which itself is far from tolerable.

Conditions for those further down the economic scale, of course, are even worse. The urban poor in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles or Philadelphia , notes analyst Sam Hersh, find their meager resources strained by high prices not  common in less fashionable cities like Buffalo or Dallas. “In some ways,” he notes, “ the low cost of living in “unsuccessful” legacy cities means that quality of life is in many cases better than in those cities widely regarded as a success.”

The dirty little secret here is the persistence of urban poverty. Despite the hype over gentrification, urban economies—including that of New York—still underperform their periphery. Nearly half of New York’s residents, notes the Nation are either below the poverty line or just above it. Just look at the penultimate symbol of urban renaissance, Brooklyn. The county (home to most of my family till the 1950s) suffers a median per capita income in 2009 of just under $23,000, almost $10,000 below the national average (PDF).

Marquee cities haven’t “cured poverty” or exported it largely to the suburbs, as is regularly claimed. Cities still suffer a poverty rate twice as high as in the suburbs. Demographer Wendell Cox notes that  some 80% of the population growth over the past decade in the nation’s 51 largest cities came from the ranks of those with lower incomes, most likely the children of the entrenched poor as well as immigrants.

The resilience of poor populations has occurred even as there has been a much ballyhooed surge into some cities of younger people, primarily single, often well-educated, childless and less traditional in their values. This demographic shift has further pushed urban politics to the left as singles, particularly women, have become, next to African-Americans, the most reliable Democratic constituency.

By the time these young people get older and develop more interest in issues like schools, parks and public safety, Census data suggest they leave in cities large numbers, depriving them of a critical source of political, social and economic stability. By the age of 40, according to the most recent data, going up to 2012, more desert the core city than ever came there in the first place. 

Urban Politics Left Turn

This new demography—essentially a marriage of rich, young singles and the poor—has created an urban electorate increasingly one-dimensional, and less middle class, not only in economic status, but also, perhaps more importantly, in attitude. This can be seen in the very low participation rates in de Blasio’s victory in New York, where under one quarter of the electorate voted in the election compared to some 57 percent in the 1993 Giuliani vs Dinkins race. Historically, middle class voters were the most reliable voters and their decline has led to record low participation not only in New York, but also in Los Angeles, where new Mayor Eric Garcetti was elected with the lowest turnout, barely twenty percent, in a contested election in recent memory.

The decline in voter participation occurs as cities are becoming ever more one-party constituencies. Two decades ago a large chunk of the top twelve cities were run by Republicans, but today none are. America’s cities have evolved into a political monoculture, with the Democratic share growing by 20 percent or more in most of the largest urban counties.

Under such circumstances the worst miscues by liberals are largely ignored or excused as politics and media take place in a kind of left-wing echo chamber. Even the meltdown of the healthcare law, which has hurt the president’s approval rating in national polls, seems to have not impacted his popularity in urban areas. 

In New York and other cities this shift leftward, ironically, has been enabled by the successes of Bloomberg and other pro-business pragmatists whose successful policies on issues like crime have shifted the political agenda to other matters. “This election is not going to be about crime, as some previous elections were,” de Blasio told National Journal last month. “It used to be in New York you worried about getting mugged. But today’s mugging is economic. Can you afford your rent?”

Policy Directions.

With crime a less urgent issue and no sizable right or even centrist voting blocs, urban leaders can now push a set of initiatives—for example on policing—that would have been unthinkable in the New York of Rudy Giuliani or Los Angeles under Riordan. There are also likely to be fewer pushes for education reform, a critical issue for retaining the middle class, since most left-wingers, like de Blasio, largely follow the union party line.

This is not to suggest that we should long for a return to the Bloombergian  “luxury city.” The gentrification-oriented policies did indeed foster the evolution of  two cities, one preserved by tax increment funding and donations by wealthy and businesses and another, heavily minority city, notes analyst Aaron Renn facing budget constraints, the closing of schools, parks and other facilities 

But revoking these policies alone does little to expand the middle class and diminish social inequality. A more direct step would be to boost the minimum wage in cities—as suggested by Seattle’s firebrand socialist council member and endorsed by the new Mayor— for the vast numbers of working poor who labor in hotels, fast food restaurants and other service businesses.  This, to his credit, is what Richard Florida suggests as part of his proposed “creative compact” to boost the pay workers who work in service jobs for his dominant “creatives.”

This policy does address inequities but it may also have the effect of reducing overall employment as companies seek to downsize and automate their operations. Although conceived to help the working poor, it could further reduce job opportunities for those most in need of work.

Can Social Media Save New York?

The key issue is how to expand high wage jobs in cities with high rents and costs of living. One approach, embraced by many urban boosters, is to lure social media firms. Tech companies tend to concentrate in denser urban areas and are also a good fit with urban left-wing politics as they tend to be dominated by young, alternative lifestyle types.

However, this is a risky proposition, given the historic volatility of these companies. After the last bubble, Silicon Alley suffered a downward trajectory, losing 15,000 of its 50,000 information jobs in the first five years of the decade.

Although some claim, in a fit of delusion, that the city is now second to the Silicon Valley in tech this ignores the long-term trends. In fact, since, since 2001, Gotham’s overall tech industry growth has been a paltry 6% while the number of science, technology, engineering, and math related jobs has fallen 4%. This performance pales compared not only to  the Bay Area, but a host of other cities ranging from Austin and Houston to Raleigh, Salt Lake and Nashville.

The chances of Gotham becoming a major tech center are further handicapped  by a severe lack of engineering talent. On a per capita basis, the New York area ranks 78th out of the nation’s 85 largest metro areas, with a miniscule 6.1 engineers per 1,000 workers, one seventh the concentration in the Valley and well below that of many other regions, including both Houston and Los Angeles.

Finally for most cities, and particularly in New York, Los Angeles and Chicago, the rise of social media has been a mixed blessing. Whatever employment is gained in social media has been more than lost by declines in book publishing, videos, magazines and newspapers—all industries historically concentrated in big cities. Since 2001 newspaper publishing has lost almost 200,000 jobs nationwide, or 45% of its total, while employment at periodicals has dropped 51,000,or 30%, and book publishing, an industry overwhelmingly concentrated in New York, lost 17,000 jobs, or 20% of its total.

Restoring the Aspirational City

Instead of waiting for the social media Mr. Goodbars to save the day, or try to force up wages by edict, cities may do better to focus on preserving and even bolstering existing middle-income jobs. In New York, for example, more emphasis needs to be placed on retaining mid-tier white collar jobs, which have been fleeing the city for more affordable regions, including the much dissed suburbs.   

New York’s middle class has been a primary victim of the wholesale desertion of the city by large firms.  In 1960 New York City boasted one out of every four Fortune 500  firms; today it hovers around 46. And even among those keeping their headquarters in Gotham,  many have shipped most of their back office operations elsewhere. Amidst a record run on Wall Street, the financial sector’s employment has fallen by 7.4 percent since 2007. The city’s big employment gains have been mostly concentrated in low-wage hospitality and retail sectors—service jobs that often don’t provide benefits and are vulnerable to fluctuations in the market.

Other potential sources of higher wage jobs include those tied to  international trade, logistics and, in some areas, manufacturing. Many progressive theorists denigrate these very industries, which tend to pay higher than average wages across the board. Traditional employment sectors like these  have  bolstered urban economies in Houston, Oklahoma City, Dallas-Ft. Worth and Charlotte. 

Equally important, cities need to shift away from the gentry urbanist fixation on the dense urban core and focus on more diverse neighborhoods. As more workers labor from home, and make their locational decisions based on factors like flexible hours and time with family, cities need to stop viewing neighborhoods as bedrooms for downtown, and begin to envision them as their own generators of wealth and value. The era of the office building has already peaked, and increasingly employment, even in cities, will become dispersed away from the cores.

Sadly, it’s doubtful the new left-wing urban leaders will embrace these ideas, in some part due to pressure from the “green” lobby. Though he was elected based on a message that assailed the city’s structural inequality, ulitimately de Blasio  may end up more dependent on Wall Street than even his predecessor since his plans to fund expanded social and educational programs depend squarely on extractions from the hated “one percent.”

What our cities need is not a return to theatrical leftism or hard left redistributive policies, but a new focus on improving the long-term economic prospects of the middle and aspirational working class. Without this shift, the new leftist approach will fail our cities as much, if not more so, than the rightfully discredited gentry urbanism it seeks to supplant.

This story originally appeared at The Daily Beast.

Joel Kotkin is executive editor of NewGeography.com and Distinguished Presidential Fellow in Urban Futures at Chapman University, and a member of the editorial board of the Orange County Register. He is author of The City: A Global History and The Next Hundred Million: America in 2050. His most recent study, The Rise of Postfamilialism, has been widely discussed and distributed internationally. He lives in Los Angeles, CA.
 
What is conservative?

Look at this chart ...

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Source: Business Insider

By my definition Chinese Taipei (Taiwan), Hong Kong, Japan, Korea, Macau-China, Shanghai and Singapore are all, more or less, conservative societies. They are, mostly, above the OECD average in Math, Reading and Science with a few being clustered, consistently, at the top. Iceland, Israel, Norway, the United Kingdom and the United States are all, more or less, liberal societies and some of them manage to, again fairly consistently, fall below the OECD average. Now, to be fair, many of the best PhD candidates from Singapore, Shanghai and Hong Kong flock to Israel's world famous Technion as well as to Cambridge, CalTech and MIT for their doctoral and post doctoral work so über liberal Israel, the UK and the USA are doing something right.

But, in at least some areas, conservatism has done its work and it's liberalsim that may need some reforming.

See, also, scholar/author/mom Amy Chua to find out how a real conservative manages in a liberal environment.

 
It obviously has lots to do with how we define "conservative". I could argue, for example, that Russia is a very "conservative country", both socially and politically, yet it hasn't even made the listings above (when other former communist countries such as Estonia, Poland, Hungary, Slovenia and the Czech Republic all have).

"Conservative", much like "Christian" (or, "elite" for that matter) has IMHO taken on alot of negative connotations because of the behaviours of some people and groups who claim membership at that point on the political continuum.

For example, I consider myself a practicing Christian (perhaps not a particularly good one, but then I'm an Anglican and we're not troubled by amateurism...). I resent the PC stupidity that stops us from publicly celebrating Christmas, or the unquestioned conventional "wisdom" that religion causes wars. And yet, I am completely repelled by many of the book-burning screamers, gay-baiters and God-botherers-in-general who parade about as "Christians".

I see it much the same for conservatism. As I've noted elswhere, I do subscribe to a number of the virtues that Thucydides or ERC would identify as essential elements of "true" conservatism. But, at the same time, I find a  large part of the Right to be a gang of loud, frightening and somewhat sinister haters who make a fetish of ignorance, xenophobia and selfishness.

To me, the job is to show Canadians the virtues of small "c' conservatism, while retaining a reasonable measure of compassion, but also warding off the fringe elements who muddy the waters.
 
pbi said:
It obviously has lots to do with how we define "conservative". I could argue, for example, that Russia is a very "conservative country", both socially and politically, yet it hasn't even made the listings above (when other former communist countries such as Estonia, Poland, Hungary, Slovenia and the Czech Republic all have).

"Conservative", much like "Christian" (or, "elite" for that matter) has IMHO taken on alot of negative connotations because of the behaviours of some people and groups who claim membership at that point on the political continuum.

For example, I consider myself a practicing Christian (perhaps not a particularly good one, but then I'm an Anglican and we're not troubled by amateurism...). I resent the PC stupidity that stops us from publicly celebrating Christmas, or the unquestioned conventional "wisdom" that religion causes wars. And yet, I am completely repelled by many of the book-burning screamers, gay-baiters and God-botherers-in-general who parade about as "Christians".

I see it much the same for conservatism. As I've noted elswhere, I do subscribe to a number of the virtues that Thucydides or ERC would identify as essential elements of "true" conservatism. But, at the same time, I find a  large part of the Right to be a gang of loud, frightening and somewhat sinister haters who make a fetish of ignorance, xenophobia and selfishness.

To me, the job is to show Canadians the virtues of small "c' conservatism, while retaining a reasonable measure of compassion, but also warding off the fringe elements who muddy the waters.

A great post.
 
One of the strengths (or weakness) of liberal democracies is that the full spectrum of opinion is out in the open for everyone to see. While this may be quite annoying, since you are exposed to the ends of the Bell curve, it is also a source of strength, since you can examine all competing ideas and develop your own arguments to either support or counter them as you see fit.

The current trends of using misleading language to mask meanings, or Political Correctness to smother debate is extremely dangerous, since it prevents the examination of ideas and the ability to develop and articulate ideas of your own. (Why this is considered desirable in some circles is a topic in its own right).

So while you may find your "friends" in the Conservative movement more a hindrance than the enemies out in the Progressive side, you should be thanking them for forcing you to constantly examine your own premises and develop you arguments.
 
I recall a quote by someone that goes something like:

"Being a conservative means you can hold contrasting views in your head without having it explode."

I'm not sure who said it, but it sounds like something Churchill might have said.
 
I do subscribe to a number of the virtues that Thucydides or ERC would identify as essential elements of "true" conservatism.
I'm pretty sure this Thucydides person is a liberal (a classical liberal) so I'm kind of confused about this so-called "true conservatism" he espouses. Most people in this thread are simply arguing over (and trying to define) different forms of liberalism (classical vs. modern). The CPC and the Republican party are both neoliberal parties, conservatism isn't really entering into the equation at all.

E.R. Campbell makes a good point in this regard, a few posts back.

In terms of the literal conservatism that involves preserving traditional societal institutions, strict rule of law, local communities (in opposition to nationalism and globalism) and a "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality, most so-called "conservative" (IE neoliberal) parties including the CPC fail pretty hard on at least one count, usually more than one. As a vague sort of Tory who is generally opposed to identity politics and PC garbage, generally in favour of small business and charity, and generally skeptical towards ultracapitalist social darwinism, this thread is amusing since from my point of view the "Conservatism Needs Work" thread is up to the neck in liberalism. Conservatism needs work indeed...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_conservatism
 
As that Thucydides guy, I will step in and say that I think language is vitally important and that words have power, which is why I try to be precise with the use of language. I also understand that there are various conventions which have so much "weight of history" which makes changing people's perceptions, attitudes and beliefs very difficult.

What is happening in modern society is a very deliberate corruption of language, so that while words may still have their "emotional" connotations (Liberal, Progressive and so on sound like good things, and indeed, you can shut down a lot of arguments by asking if the arguer is "against progress"), their actual meaning in practice is quite different from what most people think. Progressiveism, as practiced, is close to the correctly political meaning of Fascism (and it is not a big surprise, since the roots of the Progressive movement spring from similar sources). This is most evident when watching the news and seeing some neo Fascist or Nazi group being described as "Right Wing" by the press and the chattering class; nothing could be further from the truth. Fascism, Naziism and Progressive Ideology are subsets of Socialism)

So one of the difficult uphill battles is to use language correctly, and of course pay homage to our roots in Classical Liberalism. It does pay dividends from time to time. I once attended a seminare by "The Institute for Liberal Studies" at U Windsor. During a break, a large group of young people came in and sat in on a panel discussion; it was obvious many were confused by what they heard. Afterwards many left, but one young man stayed, so I asked why he had come and what he expected. His answer was he had come with a group expecting to fing a meeting of the "Young Liberals". Evidently discussions of property rights did not fit in with the "Liberal (party)" definition of Liberalism, but our man was intrigued, and indeed he signed up afterwards, which resulted in a gain for "our" side.

As a practical matter, the closest and most practical means of articulating and implimenting a Classical Liberal political program in Canada today would have to be the CPC, and to a lesser extent the Progressive Conservative parties of the provinces (Alberta's Wild Rose Alliance is probably more Classicly Liberal than the PC party out there, and the definitions in Lotus land are quite confusing, I'm fairly certain that BC Liberals are Conservatives...or something). This is not to say they are entirely "Liberal" in the true sense of the word, but as "Transformative" parites their constitutions and philosophies are pointing in that direction. The Liberal Party is mearly a transactive party these days, which would actually make it "Conservative", since making deals and strengthening client relationships pretty much means supporting the status quo.
 
Thucydides said:
Progressiveism, as practiced, is close to the correctly political meaning of Fascism (and it is not a big surprise, since the roots of the Progressive movement spring from similar sources). This is most evident when watching the news and seeing some neo Fascist or Nazi group being described as "Right Wing" by the press and the chattering class; nothing could be further from the truth. Fascism, Naziism and Progressive Ideology are subsets of Socialism)

That little tidbit comes to us curtsey of Joseph Stalin who was describing the NASDP in WWII. While it is correct to state that National Socialists are to the right of Communists, it's generous to call them right wing.
 
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