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His sock-puppet foreign minister, Jolie, basically told the HoC that they’re afraid of trade and commerce reprisals, like that’s supposed to trump basic national security. Our political class has a deeply incestuous relationship with the Canada-China Business Council.

Australia has much deeper trade ties to China than we do, plus are physically more isolated from their allies, but have no problems taking strong positions against Beijing.
That’s because the Aussie government has some cajones.
 
On one hand you can say the Liberals are damned if they do damned if they don't. They expelled the diplomat and people still aren't happy.

On the other hand did they have much of a choice?

Trudeau and Mendicino say CSIS never shared the report.

Katie Tedford and CSIS say they did. There's a report supporting this too.

Mendicino then turns around and blames "bad actors" but doesn't name them.


If this happens a dozen more times I'm going to start thinking there's a pattern developing.
Then again, read the fine print. Mendicino said that he was never "directly" briefed by CSIS. Which is entirely true. CSIS, from what I have read, reports via a written statement and do not normally schedule briefings for the minister. So he probably isn't directly lying, just playing loose and easy with the english language.
 
Maybe I’m wrong but, although some may see it as a win for the government, a growing number of Canadians are seeing that Trudeau did this because he was forced to. It was not a proactive decision. That, along with Trudeau’s wishy-washy stance on defence, shows his impotence and lack of commitment in the face of international crises.
No doubt it was a “sacrificial lamb”. A low level street diplomat whose only function was to sow discord.

If you’re really serious you expel the head of the embassy intelligence bureaucracy.
 
Then again, read the fine print. Mendicino said that he was never "directly" briefed by CSIS. Which is entirely true. CSIS, from what I have read, reports via a written statement and do not normally schedule briefings for the minister. So he probably isn't directly lying, just playing loose and easy with the english language.
Has someone not asked this question, "Where is the tracking sheet on this note to higher authority?"
 
Has someone not asked this question, "Where is the tracking sheet on this note to higher authority?"
My guess is that the special rapporteur will be looking into that or at the very least the public inquiry (I am sure that will be his recommendation) would be looking into that.
 
Apparently Chinese interference is not limited to federal levels but at the school board district as well. The Toronto School Board District in particular.

Kinsella's latest take:


Edited to add: The Chinese play a long game. 50 years is but a smidgen in time to their culture. I would guess that the sowed the seeds of what we see now 50-60 years ago. The Panda Bear ain't too friendly, that's for sure.
 
Apparently Chinese interference is not limited to federal levels but at the school board district as well. The Toronto School Board District in particular.

Kinsella's latest take:


All I can do is

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Apparently Chinese interference is not limited to federal levels but at the school board district as well. The Toronto School Board District in particular.

Kinsella's latest take:


Edited to add: The Chinese play a long game. 50 years is but a smidgen in time to their culture. I would guess that the sowed the seeds of what we see now 50-60 years ago. The Panda Bear ain't too friendly, that's for sure.
Yes, CCP influence, interference and intimidation reaches deep into all levels of government and business. In school boards, they can influence what our kids are taught about the Middle Kingdom.
 
My guess is that the special rapporteur will be looking into that or at the very least the public inquiry (I am sure that will be his recommendation) would be looking into that.
I would hope so. This is basic document administration.
 
Has anyone pointed this out yet?

Another one of Paul Desmarais's projects


Canada China Business Council


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Canada China Business Council
Canada China Business Council Logo
Founded1978
FocusInternational Trade
Location
Area servedGlobal
ServicesGovernment advocacy, event organization, trade missions, research, publishing
Key peopleOlivier Desmarais, Chair
Graham Shantz, President
Sarah Kutulakos, Executive Director
Employees17
Websitehttp://www.ccbc.com/
The Canada China Business Council or CCBC (French: Conseil d'affaires Canada-Chine, Chinese: 加中贸易理事会) is a private, non-profit business association founded in 1978 to facilitate and promote business, trade and investment between Canada and People's Republic of China. CCBC has offices in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Calgary, Halifax, Beijing, and Shanghai. CCBC is the de facto Canadian chamber of commerce in Beijing. It also has business incubators[1] in Beijing, Shanghai, Montreal, and Calgary to help Canadian companies grow in China, and Chinese investors to succeed in Canada.[2]

Mandate[edit]​

  • Stimulate growth in bilateral business, trade and investment in goods and services;
  • Promote closer bilateral relations between Canada and China;
  • Provide practical and focused business advice and services to members;
  • Be the voice of the Canadian business community on matters pertaining Canada-China relations at all levels of government and to the general public in both countries.[3]

Events[edit]​

CCBC hosts various events such as trade missions and delegations, conferences, roundtables and seminars throughout the year. It also organizes business and networking events on behalf of its members. Notable past events include the state visit to China by Governor General David Johnston in 2013,[4] visit by Prime Minister Stephen Harper[5] in 2012, and China's Commerce Minister CHEN Deming's[6] visit to Canada in 2012. Other events include:
  • CCBC Annual General Meeting and Policy Conference
  • Canada-China Business Forum
  • CCBC China Business Workshops
  • CCBC Great Canadian Christmas Party
  • CCBC Canadian Charity Ball
  • Canada Day celebrations

Publications[edit]​

CCBC publishes its annual magazine, the Canada-China Business Forum Magazine".[7] The magazine covers topics relevant to Canada-China business, trade and investment. Business leaders, public officials and academics familiar with Canada-China relations contribute to the magazine. The most recent edition was published in August 2016.

Advocacy and awards[edit]​

CCBC advocates for stronger bilateral ties between Canada and China and for a better business environment in each country. This advocacy work is directed by members towards governments and institutions in both countries. The Government of Alberta signed an externship agreement with the CCBC in 2012 (Edit - Alison Redford's premiership) to allow young Albertans to gain valuable work experience in China.[8] CCBC also recognizes companies that have demonstrated business excellence and leadership in China and Canada. In 2012, the CCBC presented its biennial China-Canada Business Excellence Awards to:

Structure[edit]​

The CCBC is a private, non-partisan, membership-based business association, with members from both Canada and China. Members include large multinational corporations such as Barrick Gold, BlackBerry, Bombardier, BMO Financial Group, Caisse de Depot, CITIC, Export Development Canada, Huawei Technologies, Manulife Financial, Molycorp, Power Corporation, SNC Lavalin, and Sun Life Financial. The CCBC draws its members from different industries, including manufacturing, oil and gas, education, public sector and professional services. The CCBC works closely with the China Council for Promotion of International Trade(CCPIT).[13] (Edit: A whole bunch of familiar names there)

I was directed there after reading this article


It ties Trudeau's Liberals to Obama's Democrats, Hilary and the Center for American Progress, run by John Podesta who brought us a Dossier from Russia in 2016. And Jacinda Ardern. And every other "progressive" you can think of.

It also ties Trudeau's Liberals to Paul Desmarais, the Power Corporation, the Canada China Business Council etc.

Doing business since 1978.

And just a reminder about Power Corporation


Several former Canadian prime ministers have occupied a position on the management team or on the board of Power Corporation, of one of its group companies or of its international advisory council :



Comme le p'tit gars lui-meme disait - nothing to see here, move along.
 
bit of a tangent but I seem to recall that when Harper was first elected he came down really hard on the side of Taiwan. Little later on, not so much. Was there inside pressure from outfits like Power to knuckle under?
 
Has anyone pointed this out yet?

Another one of Paul Desmarais's projects


Canada China Business Council


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Canada China Business Council
Canada China Business Council Logo
Founded1978
FocusInternational Trade
Location
Area servedGlobal
ServicesGovernment advocacy, event organization, trade missions, research, publishing
Key peopleOlivier Desmarais, Chair
Graham Shantz, President
Sarah Kutulakos, Executive Director
Employees17
Websitehttp://www.ccbc.com/
The Canada China Business Council or CCBC (French: Conseil d'affaires Canada-Chine, Chinese: 加中贸易理事会) is a private, non-profit business association founded in 1978 to facilitate and promote business, trade and investment between Canada and People's Republic of China. CCBC has offices in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Calgary, Halifax, Beijing, and Shanghai. CCBC is the de facto Canadian chamber of commerce in Beijing. It also has business incubators[1] in Beijing, Shanghai, Montreal, and Calgary to help Canadian companies grow in China, and Chinese investors to succeed in Canada.[2]

Mandate[edit]​

  • Stimulate growth in bilateral business, trade and investment in goods and services;
  • Promote closer bilateral relations between Canada and China;
  • Provide practical and focused business advice and services to members;
  • Be the voice of the Canadian business community on matters pertaining Canada-China relations at all levels of government and to the general public in both countries.[3]

Events[edit]​

CCBC hosts various events such as trade missions and delegations, conferences, roundtables and seminars throughout the year. It also organizes business and networking events on behalf of its members. Notable past events include the state visit to China by Governor General David Johnston in 2013,[4] visit by Prime Minister Stephen Harper[5] in 2012, and China's Commerce Minister CHEN Deming's[6] visit to Canada in 2012. Other events include:
  • CCBC Annual General Meeting and Policy Conference
  • Canada-China Business Forum
  • CCBC China Business Workshops
  • CCBC Great Canadian Christmas Party
  • CCBC Canadian Charity Ball
  • Canada Day celebrations

Publications[edit]​

CCBC publishes its annual magazine, the Canada-China Business Forum Magazine".[7] The magazine covers topics relevant to Canada-China business, trade and investment. Business leaders, public officials and academics familiar with Canada-China relations contribute to the magazine. The most recent edition was published in August 2016.

Advocacy and awards[edit]​

CCBC advocates for stronger bilateral ties between Canada and China and for a better business environment in each country. This advocacy work is directed by members towards governments and institutions in both countries. The Government of Alberta signed an externship agreement with the CCBC in 2012 (Edit - Alison Redford's premiership) to allow young Albertans to gain valuable work experience in China.[8] CCBC also recognizes companies that have demonstrated business excellence and leadership in China and Canada. In 2012, the CCBC presented its biennial China-Canada Business Excellence Awards to:

Structure[edit]​

The CCBC is a private, non-partisan, membership-based business association, with members from both Canada and China. Members include large multinational corporations such as Barrick Gold, BlackBerry, Bombardier, BMO Financial Group, Caisse de Depot, CITIC, Export Development Canada, Huawei Technologies, Manulife Financial, Molycorp, Power Corporation, SNC Lavalin, and Sun Life Financial. The CCBC draws its members from different industries, including manufacturing, oil and gas, education, public sector and professional services. The CCBC works closely with the China Council for Promotion of International Trade(CCPIT).[13] (Edit: A whole bunch of familiar names there)

I was directed there after reading this article


It ties Trudeau's Liberals to Obama's Democrats, Hilary and the Center for American Progress, run by John Podesta who brought us a Dossier from Russia in 2016. And Jacinda Ardern. And every other "progressive" you can think of.

It also ties Trudeau's Liberals to Paul Desmarais, the Power Corporation, the Canada China Business Council etc.

Doing business since 1978.

And just a reminder about Power Corporation


Several former Canadian prime ministers have occupied a position on the management team or on the board of Power Corporation, of one of its group companies or of its international advisory council :



Comme le p'tit gars lui-meme disait - nothing to see here, move along.
I have obliquely referred to it a few times as one of the main sources in CCP influence on our business and government sectors.
 
bit of a tangent but I seem to recall that when Harper was first elected he came down really hard on the side of Taiwan. Little later on, not so much. Was there inside pressure from outfits like Power to knuckle under?
That’s absolutely what happened. The corporate sector game down on him like a ton of bricks. The China Canada Business Council and Power was for sure a part of that.
 
I have obliquely referred to it a few times as one of the main sources in CCP influence on our business and government sectors.
Matt Galloway from the Current was interviewing a gentleman from CCBC about the expulsion of the Chinese Diplomat. His summary (paraphrased): “this is all Canada’s fault. We need to show more respect to China. And act like we did when Jean Chretien was PM (which, I assume, means roll over whenever we are told to)”.

Even Galloway, a CBC host, was incredulous.

CCBC=wholly owned subsidiary of the CCP.
 
Confucius Institutes (CI; Chinese: 孔子学院; pinyin: Kǒngzǐ Xuéyuàn) are public educational and cultural promotion programs funded and arranged currently by the Chinese International Education Foundation [zh], a government-organized non-governmental organization (GONGO) under the Ministry of Education of the People's Republic of China.[1] The Confucius Institute program was formerly under Hanban, an organization affiliated with the Chinese government.[2] The stated aim of the program is to promote Chinese language and culture, support local Chinese teaching internationally, and facilitate cultural exchanges.[3][4]

Founded 2004; 19 years ago
Type Cultural promotion organization
Focus Chinese culture, Chinese language
Location 15 Xueyuan Road, Haidian District, Beijing
Area served Worldwide
Method Education and advocacy
Owner Chinese International Education Foundation [zh] (2020-)
Hanban (before 2020)



The Hanban, also known as the Confucius Institutes Headquarters, is renaming itself the Ministry of Education Center for Language Exchange and Cooperation. According to China’s Global Times, it will continue to train Chinese language teachers, develop textbooks, and carry out many of the functions necessary for the operation of Confucius Institutes. The Hanban will spin off a separate organization, the Chinese International Education Foundation, which will fund and officially oversee Confucius Institutes.



The immediate result of the change is minimal. The new organization overseeing Confucius Institutes is technically a nongovernmental nonprofit, but those words mean little under the Chinese Communist regime. Confucius Institutes will remain subject to the same restrictions and pressures to conform to Chinese government dictates. They will continue to fulfill the Chinese government’s goals of maintaining outposts on American college campuses, where they can disseminate propaganda, conduct espionage, monitor overseas Chinese students, and advance the United Front’s agenda to “make the foreign serve China.”
Hanban
United Front
 
Apparently interference has been going on for some time - from Mulroney til this day.

It’s really not all Justin’s fault - did I just say that?
Harper, Martin, Chrétien and Mulroney all should be sharing the blame.
 
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