Chinese Military,Political and Social Superthread

[Rifleman62]

Look who is saying there should be a public enquiry.

 

[Kirkhill]

New Léger Poll.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1636457054519820288

If the CPC wants to avoid having the LPC survive yet another scandal the last thing they should do is attack DJ.

But if they want to shoot themselves in the foot and then wonder why people might not vote for them or at least against the LPC then by all means, attack David Johnson’s credibility and see what sort of traction that gets.

Polling Firm	Rating	Date (middle)	N	LPC	CPC	NDP	GPC	BQ	PPC	Leader

Léger

2023-03-11

1,544

33

32

19

4

9

2

LPC +1

Léger

2023-02-11

1,539

32

35

18

4

7

2

CPC +3

Léger

2023-01-21

1,554

34

34

19

3

7

1

Tie

Léger

2022-12-10

1,526

30

33

21

4

7

4

CPC +3

Léger

2022-11-12

1,537

32

34

19

4

7

2

CPC +2

Canada polls | 338Canada

338canada.com

Of swallows and springs.....

 

[Good2Golf]

They may be onto something.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1636771393382780928

 

[OldSolduer]

Now Trudeau is attempting to lay the blame on Polievre. What a fucking weasel.

My apologies to all weasels.

 

[JLB50]

Now Trudeau is attempting to lay the blame on Polievre. What a fucking weasel.

My apologies to all weasels.

What????? Me, a weasel???? No weasel here. Do you see a weasel? Nothing up my sleeve.

 

[JLB50]

Words from the whistleblower. (Paywall may apply).

Opinion: Why I blew the whistle on Chinese interference in Canada’s elections

My decision to reveal secret and top-secret intelligence documents to The Globe and Mail did not come easily. Here is why I did so, all the same

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[Rifleman62]

You can read the article here with no paywall:

Globe2Go, the digital newspaper replica of The Globe and Mail

Globe2Go, the digital newspaper replica of The Globe and Mail

globe2go.pressreader.com

 

[Rifleman62]

Globe editorial: David Johnston is an honourable man — and the wrong choice to head Trudeau’s foreign interference probe

If the Prime Minister had been sincere about reassuring Canadians, he would have acceded to demands that the special rapporteur’s appointment be a joint decision

www.theglobeandmail.com

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David Johnston is an honourable man — and the wrong choice to head Trudeau’s foreign interference probe​

THE EDITORIAL BOARD
PUBLISHED YESTERDAY

Former governor-general David Johnston appears before a Commons committee reviewing his nomination as elections debates commissioner on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on Nov. 6, 2018. On Wednesday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Mr. Johnston will be his handpicked point person in a probe into foreign election interference.SEAN KILPATRICK
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We’ll give Prime Minister Justin Trudeau this much: Of all the family friends who are governing members of the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation that he could have named as his special rapporteur, David Johnston is by far the best qualified.
On Wednesday, Mr. Trudeau said Mr. Johnston, a former governor-general, will be his handpicked point person in an ad hoc probe into foreign election interference.
The rapporteur position is Mr. Trudeau’s response to the growing clamour for a full public inquiry after reporting from The Globe and Mail and Global News laid bare meddling by China in the 2019 and 2021 federal elections.

When Mr. Trudeau announced the creation of a special rapporteur on March 6, he hit on a critical point: that “all Canadians regardless of who they voted for or didn’t vote for” should be able to find reassurance in the process, and that the “level of partisan disagreements” was making it difficult for any party, his included, to provide such reassurances.

The Prime Minister was correct. All Canadians are owed reassurance that our electoral system has been reinforced against Beijing’s meddling. And partisan considerations have indeed obstructed efforts to get to the bottom of what happened in the past two elections, and what Ottawa did about it.

There’s no better example of mindless partisanship than the smug stonewalling of the Liberal MPs on the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, now entering a third week of filibustering on a straightforward motion for testimony from Liberal chief of staff Katie Telford.

Mr. Trudeau’s naming of Mr. Johnston is in line with those tactics. If the Prime Minister had been sincere in his worries about reassuring all Canadians, he would have taken a much different approach and acceded to the demands of opposition leaders that a special rapporteur be jointly agreed upon.

Cross-partisan support would have guaranteed that a special rapporteur’s findings would be taken seriously by Canadians of good will. It may have been difficult to come up with a mutually acceptable name but, according to Mr. Trudeau, there were many possible eminent candidates. Finding one, perhaps by looking beyond the two dozen or so members of the Trudeau foundation, should not have been impossible.

Instead, we have the unilateral appointment of Mr. Johnston, a clear indication that Mr. Trudeau still does not seem to grasp that Beijing’s meddling has corroded confidence in the inviolability of our electoral system.

Mr. Johnston is not the right person to restore that confidence. His personal connections to Mr. Trudeau should disqualify him. This is not to question his accomplishments, or his integrity. As governor-general, he served this country with dignity, a capstone to his career in public service.

The Liberals have pointed to his time as governor-general as proof of his fitness for the role of special rapporteur, particularly since he was appointed by a Conservative, former prime minister Stephen Harper.

But the opposite is true. By thrusting a former governor-general into the middle of a partisan fray, the Liberals risk introducing a political taint to the vice-regal office. Already, the leaders of both the Conservatives and the Bloc Québécois say they oppose Mr. Johnston’s appointment, a clear indication of the danger to which Mr. Trudeau has exposed him.

Governors-general should not be used for politics, either during or after their terms. The office’s independence must be safeguarded.

Then there is the clear and present danger to our institutions. Canadians need to have full confidence that our elections are not being influenced by foreign powers. They also deserve full disclosure from the Liberals.

Rather than do that, the Liberals are bending every effort to keep the issue out of the public eye, clearly preferring the resulting political damage to the perils of an open, independent inquiry.

It’s telling that Mr. Trudeau announced his action plan on foreign interference two weeks ago, more than 17 months after the 2021 election and only after The Globe brought the depth of Beijing’s meddling into public view.

The Prime Minister still refuses to implement a public inquiry. He refuses to allow the parliamentary committee investigating the matter to go about its business. And he continues to refuse to answer the three questions that Canadians deserve answers to: What did he know about Beijing’s meddling? When did he know it? And what did he do about it?

 

[FSTO]

Paul Wells at the 43:38
Power & Politics
'I don't agree with the methodology' says Liberal MP of election interference whistleblower 2183414339792 | Power & Politics | CBC Gem

 

[Edward Campbell]

This: Opinion: Why I blew the whistle on Chinese interference in Canada’s elections

 

[OldSolduer]

You can read the article here with no paywall:

Globe2Go, the digital newspaper replica of The Globe and Mail

Globe2Go, the digital newspaper replica of The Globe and Mail

globe2go.pressreader.com

Whoever this person is they are a person of integrity - like we all took the oath to defend our country and still will if need be.

THIS is one of those times.

 

[JLB50]

Canada needs a lot more patriots like the whistleblower. Too bad we’re not seeing them in Parliament.

LILLEY: Whistleblower puts country first unlike Justin Trudeau

Country over party, country over everything -- that’s how our society should work. But, sadly, it doesn’t.

torontosun.com

 

[OldSolduer]

Canada needs a lot more patriots like the whistleblower. Too bad we’re not seeing them in Parliament.

LILLEY: Whistleblower puts country first unlike Justin Trudeau

Country over party, country over everything -- that’s how our society should work. But, sadly, it doesn’t.

torontosun.com

You know I personally love this nation and would do anything required to defend it - lawfully of course.

TOO many people want to rule this country for the good of themselves and their cronies - and will attempt to do it unlawfully and pretend its everyone else's fault for pointing it out. Fuckin thieves.

 

[JLB50]

You know I personally love this nation and would do anything required to defend it - lawfully of course.

TOO many people want to rule this country for the good of themselves and their cronies - and will attempt to do it unlawfully and pretend its everyone else's fault for pointing it out. Fuckin thieves.

 

[JLB50]

You know I personally love this nation and would do anything required to defend it - lawfully of course.

TOO many people want to rule this country for the good of themselves and their cronies - and will attempt to do it unlawfully and pretend its everyone else's fault for pointing it out. Fuckin thieves.

While there have always been thieves in government, never have I seen so many thieves as well as basically honest (but misguided) politicians who are so timid about other foreign entities trying to influence if not destroy our government and our way of life.

 

[OldSolduer]

While there have always been thieves in government, never have I seen so many thieves as well as basically honest (but misguided) politicians who are so timid about other foreign entities trying to influence if not destroy our government and our way of life.

Misguided = naive = useful fools. We have a number of them at all levels and all parties.

And thieves in government have always been there but when one was found he or she were outed real quick. Now they are celebrated.

 

[JLB50]

Misguided = naive = useful fools. We have a number of them at all levels and all parties.

And thieves in government have always been there but when one was found he or she were outed real quick. Now they are celebrated.

Celebrated??? Not sure to what extent I agree with that but it certainly has an element of truth to i.

 

[OldSolduer]

Celebrated???

Certainly they are not held to account - how many ethics violations thus far? And all they do is apologize.

 

[JLB50]

Trying to be fair. Some ethics violations are not only major, but done intentionally and in some cases they are criminal in nature. Others can be minor, sometimes as a result of not understanding the myriad of complicated regulations on a particular topic or action. However if a politician racks up a huge number of minor violations then that is also serious. Anyway, as I said earlier, I basically agree with you.

 

[YZT580]

Trying to be fair. Some ethics violations are not only major, but done intentionally and in some cases they are criminal in nature. Others can be minor, sometimes as a result of not understanding the myriad of complicated regulations on a particular topic or action. However if a politician racks up a huge number of minor violations then that is also serious. Anyway, as I said earlier, I basically agree with you.

our government is based upon that of Great Britain. In the last few years, there have been at least a half dozen in London fall on their swords when they have been outed. Here absolutely nothing happens instead it is the one who was outed has forced others who were faithful stewards of the law out to pasture. Even Admiral Norman was in one sense this type of victim as his crime was forcing Ottawa to honour a commitment and provide a desperately needed resource.