CF issued kit use for civi purposes

[PTE Fader]

What‘s CF‘s Regulation of usage of kit and equipment while off duty? I mean, I‘m sure it‘s not against the rules to wear combat t-shirts or combat boxers since they‘re not blatently obvious as something military issue, but what about combat pants/shirts? I‘m just wondering if it‘ll be ok to wear some crappy, worn down combat pants and shirt to go paintballing. Neither have Canadian flags, epeuletts, maple leafs, or anything else identifying them as CF (army btw) issue, except for the fact that they look like Canadian army issue. Whatchya think?

 

[Soldier of Fortune]

Well seeing how you can but them at an Army Surplus store anyways, I think its ok to wear them paintballing and stuff as long as they dont have any epaulets, ect. on it.

 

[PTE Fader]

lol, thats funny, since i bought a combat shirt at army surplus today and used it for paintball. Hella fun, and you don‘t stick out like a sorethumb (surprisinlgy)

 

[RCA]

The basic rule is that you can wear anything bought. Anything issued to you can not be worn for civvy purposes.

 

[echo]

i‘ve found that CF combats are the BEST to use for paintballing.
much better than the ammerican camo because the puffyness of the CF combats make the paintballs not break as easily and doesnt give you a definate shape when ur sitting in the middle of the woods in some godforsaken thornbush

personally i use my combats a lot for paintballing and camping just because of their comfort and easy clean up.

 

[PTE Fader]

Well, I use my combat t-shirts as undershirts, or if it get‘s too hot out, just as a regular shirt, or to just work/play. I sleep in the issued boxers, but people say the boxers are pieces of crap. Plus, from time to time, i wear my belt as it‘s one of the few ones i own that fit me. I was contemplating going for a run one day and wearing my webbing with a few 5 pound weights in the asspack, but decided against it... would look a bit strange running around with one of those.

 

[Grunt031]

Passion Killers are not "pieces of crap"!

 

[Disturbance]

So am I allowed to be training with my ruck? I wanna start doin some hiking in prep for my 2/3 this summer and figured it would be alright. And what about breakin my boots in with runnin training. I have been using normal running shoes but time is getting closer so I wanna start goin balls out with my trainin.

 

[Bloggins]

Disturbance, I have absolutely no idea about the rules as far as doing a little extra training with your ruck on, but I can‘t imagine for a second that anyone could complain. So long as you‘re not out there running around the streets in uniform, who‘s going to know anyways? In my humble opinion you‘re doing yourself a huge big favour by breaking your kit in a bit before you go on course. It‘s definitely a good thing not just to knock some of the newness out of it, but also to get used to how it feels moving with it on. That said, I really can‘t advise running with your boots on. By all means hike in them, but the chance of screwing up your feet or legs by running much over a couple hundred meters in boots just doesn‘t make it worth your while. One month before course is not the time to overstress a tendon or what have you.

 

[Disturbance]

Thanks Bloggins

 

[drmann]

yes:  don't run with combat boots, but DO train with your issued kit...
however, you don't need to wear combats to carry the rucksack... throw your webbing in the rucksack if you want to simulate it's weight, and you'll just look like a fool with a heavy backpack to most people, and no one will hassle you

 

[HollywoodHitman]

Wearing issued kit for civillian purposes can get you charged in the CF. If you're wearing Cadpat stuff that you bought at a local surplus store, I believe you can still be charged, if a member of the CF, because you are representing yourself as such. When in CF uniform, even if you're a reservist, you're subject to the CSD, signed in or not......

As for wearing your rucksack to train for your course, I don't see a problem with it, as many people DO use theirs, myself included, for training outside of military time.

Going on a personal 13km ruckmarch vs wearing your cadpat while drinking beer and playing paintball, are 2 different animals.......

my $.02

 

[KevinB]

and a special thanks to drmann for resurecting a thread from PRE 9/11  :

 

[Infanteer]

Funny, one of the FNG's asking the questions is now an 18-series stud in the SF.  Oh, how time flies.

 

[Armymedic]

Wow, thats an old thread...is this some type of new record?

BTW has he finished his training now?

 

[jswift872]

I train with my ruck alot on my own time, no one complains and as mentioned, I just look like a fool with a big back pack.

 

[Lost_Warrior]

As I recall (correct me if im wrong) you can wear your combat boots while off duty.  I wear them sometimes when I play paintball.  I have my own pair of MARPATs I wear when I play.  I sometimes wear my gortex combat boots though depending on the terrain (if it swampy, I wear them to stay dry)

 

[gun plumber]

IIRC there is a para in the CF Dress Regulations stating that you can wear accessories(ie rainsuit,greatcoat,gloves etc)while in civilian dress,and not have to worry about being dragged off kickin and screamin,as long as it doesn't identify you directly as a member of the CF.
I wear my long undies,fleece and gore-tex boots hunting on a regular basis,and have yet to be questioned about it except"nice boots.Where can I get a pair?"
I will post Pub #,chap and para if anyone wants it tomorrow.

 

[theoldyoungguy]

i personally use almost all my kit civi side, the only thing i dont use is my cadpat combats. other than that i use gortex boots for hunting, gortex gloves for skiing, smallpack for hiking(friggen comfortable), and rain gear for fishing. i use others as well, just b4 i use them i make sure any nametags, epillets, or anything that could identify it as CF issue rather than surplus bought is removed. At one point i remember a senior NCO telling me u can use any issue kit u want as long as u have all CF markings off of it such as nametags, flags, epiletts. and i dont know if u also meant to imply DEUs but from my understanding if u have a special occasion to attend to requiring fancy dress non military related, they encourage u to wear ur DEUs, just keeping in mind while in uniform u represent the CF and ur conduct should be as such. so i think that applies to pretty much everything, just make sure all CF markings are removed and ur conduct fits that of a Canadian Forces soldier and i dont think ud ever get hassled.

 

[Michael Dorosh]

IIRC there is a para in the CF Dress Regulations stating that you can wear accessories(ie rainsuit,greatcoat,gloves etc)while in civilian dress,and not have to worry about being dragged off kickin and screamin,as long as it doesn't identify you directly as a member of the CF.
I wear my long undies,fleece and gore-tex boots hunting on a regular basis,and have yet to be questioned about it except"nice boots.Where can I get a pair?"
I will post Pub #,chap and para if anyone wants it tomorrow.

I'd like to see this.  Surely it refers to privately purchased examples of military kit rather than military kit you were issued?  Wearing a pair of combat boots you bought is one thing, using boots issued to you strikes me as misuse of government property - even if the two pairs of boots are identical.  One was paid for by you, the other by the Crown.