Infanteer said:Ship it to Prince Rupert and send it east....
This first escape route will be an economic disaster, and not only for the poorer countries of southern Europe.
Thucydides said:While I understand what you are saying Edward, Brad has backed up my point. In London, there is aprox $1 billion in infrastructure maintainence to be done due to decades of neglect; by odd coincidence, the civic budget is standing at about $1 billion, of which council votes $8 million for infrastructure. Just so you all know what the magnitude of spending really is, London also has @ $450 million dollars in long term debt, most of which was racked up in the last decade to pay for the pet projects and "investments" which cost the taxpayer so dearly.
London could probably rationalize its budget and make major savings by eliinating the white elephants and "investments", privitize a great deal of its portfolio of properties and services (like garbage collection), cut taxes, and STILL have enough in its budget to provide the City Engineer with the $30 million/year needed to carry out routine maintainence. If the routine maintainence is done and (say) an extra $20-30 million/year is thrown in for repair and replacement, then we should be just fine. (Obviously it will be impossible to carry out a $1 billion infrastructure replacement at once; the city would have to be evacuated...)
The problem is (as at all levels of government) out of control spending on non priority items.
Thucydides said:I think what David Frum was getting at is the disaster will also affect anyone who has securities denominated in Euros, anyone who trades with Europe and the downline effect on people who are dependent on those directly affected.
The Europeans are not only well and truely screwed; they have screwed most of the West as well, and the contagion will affect Russia (which depends on natural gas sales to Europe), the Middle East (which depends on oil sales to Europe), China (which depends on sales of manufactured goods to Europe) with ever increasing ripple effects that will wash over to the rest of Asia, Africa and South America as well.
So while the poor nations of Europe like Estonia and Slovenia will pay to bail out Greece (despite havig far lower GDP's and personal incomes), the rest of us will be trying to find our footings as the economic landscape changes at dizzying speeds. The global deleveraging will not be in the form of a controlled drawdown....
Brad Sallows said:If I reach into my pocket now to deliver the imprudent municipalities from the consequences of their own self-indulgent wanking, then I expect they will just keep right on wanking and asking for more money. The choice on the menu is not "give money to fix infrastructure for poor hard done-by cities now"; it is "give money to fix infrastructure indefinitely so that cities can continue spending their entirely fungible dollars on whatever else it is that turns their crank". No.
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George Papandreou opens a euro can of worms with referendum
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Published Monday, Oct. 31, 2011
Papandreou's strategy
Don't take this to mean that I think George Papandreou is wrong in putting the euro debt accord to a referendum. But it is an extremely risky strategy that threatens an already fragile monetary union.
Greece's Prime Minister said today his government will put the rescue package to a referendum and a confidence vote, saying he trusts in the decision of the Greek people. But with Greeks so wildly opposed to Mr. Papandreou's austerity plan - strikes and demonstrations have been frequent and widespread - one can't help but wonder about the outcome.
Indeed, a fresh survey published on the weekend showed 60 per cent of Greeks aren't keen on the bailout plan struck last week at an EU summit in Brussels, which followed tense negotiations and inspection of Greece by the so-called troika of the EU, European Central Bank and International Monetary Fund.
The plan would see Greece's debt-to-GDP level fall to 120 per cent by 2020, but that's going to take a lot, given the country's bleak economic outlook. Also in the plan are measures to shore up euro zone banks, push holders of Greek debt to take a huge hit, and boost the region's bailout fund, known as the EFSF.
Is Mr. Papandreou risking the entire bailout process with his referendum plan?
"Given the terms of the bailout package it is the democratic thing to do, given the loss of fiscal sovereignty to the troika until 2020," said CMC Markets analyst Michael Hewson.
"But if Greece votes no, where does that leave Europe and their place in the euro?" he told me. "It could herald the beginning of the break-up of the euro."
If it's a political ploy, it's a risky one. David Watt, senior fixed income and currency strategist at RBC Dominion Securities in Toronto, agreed there's a threat to all this.
"If holding a referendum was in the cards, the sooner the better might be tactically wise, though it certainly might end up having been a strategic error," Mr. Watt said.
"Rejection of the EU package could set the roller coaster off once again," he added. "Hence, a threat to go over the heads of the opposition (internal and otherwise) and take it to the people, even though polls highlight the risk of such a move."
I agree with Mr. Hewson that it's the democratic thing to do, and with Mr. Papandreou, who told his parliament today that "this is a surpreme act of democracy and of patriotism for the people to make their own decision."
But the decision of the people may well go counter to the wishes of Mr. Papandreou. And how the Greeks see patriotism may not meet the definition of Greece's leaders.
Italy can't dodge markets
Italy is now in the crosshairs of the market as well.
Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi warned in a newspaper interview that only he can lead the government through Italy's crisis, and deliver the reforms necessary. The problem is that few believe him.
Yields on Italy's 10-year bonds climbed again today to stick above 6 per cent as the focus of the euro troubles continued to shift to Rome.
"Italy remains the key pressure point in the European sovereign debt saga and despite the ECB continuing to buy Italian bonds; it appears that they are only doing so grudgingly," said CMC's Mr. Hewson.
"While currency and equity markets surged on last week's deal it would appear that bond markets have been more sanguine and it would appear that Italy’s feet continue to burn while their prime minister becomes more of a liability with each passing day."
Mr. Berlusconi lacks credibility. And, noted Mr. Hewson, the prime minister says all the right things when backed into a corner by his colleagues in the euro zone, only to back off when yields fall and the pressure is relieved.
Italy's debt is at 120 per cent of its gross domestic product. But its interest payments are the main problem, rather than its overall debt burden.
As Scotia Capital currency strategist Eric Theoret put it, Italy would have a primary budget suplus but for the debt service.
"The rising cost of debt is an ongoing concern for markets, who fear a buyer’s strike on the part of investors in the €1.6-trillion Italian debt market. All three major credit rating agencies have a negative outlook for Italian debt, currently rated at A by S&P and A2 by Moody’s," Mr. Theoret said.
Along with that is the fact that Italy has stagnated for the better part of a decade, raising fears that the debt payments will become unsustainable if growth continues to lag. Not only is there a lack of growth, but also of government will to "streamline the Italian economy and bring it into the 21st Century," Mr. Hewson said.
"I think he's the biggest liability that Italy's got," he said of the scandal-plagued Mr. Berlusconi and his economy, the euro zone's third-largest and most heavily indebted. "Unfortunately, there's no one to replace him."
Mr. Berlusconi is rejecting calls for an election, and told an Italian newspaper he alone is up to the challenge that Italy faces.
"Only I and my government can achieve this reform program for 18 months, which is why there is no way for me to stand aside," he said in an interview published on the weekend by Corriere della Sera.
The official Xinhua news agency, used to communicate Communist Party policy, said Europe must address its own financial woes. "China can neither take up the role as a saviour to the Europeans, nor provide a 'cure' for the European malaise," it stated. "Obviously, it is up to European countries themselves to tackle their financial problems."
Barclays reported a healthy increase in profits today as it continues to reduce its exposure to debt-ridden Eurozone countries.
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A spokesman said the bank's sovereign exposure to Spain, Italy, Portugal, Ireland and Greece reduced in the third quarter by 31 per cent to £8 billion.
..."Tricks and treats drove the adjusted results, in our view," said Hank Calenti, a banks analyst at Societe Generale. "Despite the liquidity and sovereign periphery treats, Barclays Q3 results fail to inspire....
...The German government tried to deflect responsibility on Monday for a 55-billion euro accounting blunder that has exposed it to charges of ridicule for being inept and hypocritical after its steady criticism of Greek bookkeeping practices...
....The German media nevertheless mocked Schaeuble, saying the 55-billion euro accounting error put Berlin in the same category as the Greek government for failing to report accurate figures. Inaccurate reporting of Greek deficits contributed to the euro zone sovereign debt crisis that has hit Europe hard.
"Incredible but true," wrote the Rheinische Post newspaper. "The nationalized bank HRE made a staggering 55-billion euro miscalculation. It's scandalous that bank managers, certified public accountants and government supervisors made an error of this dimension. This kind of sloppiness reminds us of Greece.....
Kirkhill said:...
Time for a nice bowl of Scotch Broth, two aspirins and a wee dram. I'm sure it will have all sorted itself out by the morning........
Slouching toward the 1930s (American Thinker)
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October 31, 2011
By Monty Pelerin
The current economic crisis rivals the one of the 1930s. Despite shameless propaganda by government and its cronies in the media, people understand that the situation is getting worse. Consumer confidence continues to decline as does confidence in the future.
We are headed for an event that history will record as worse than the Great Depression. It is unavoidable.
The Level of Debt
The principal reason for the dire prediction is the level of debt outstanding. Current debt levels are simply not sustainable. Assets and cash flows cannot support or service this debt.
No economic recovery can occur without massive debt reduction. As shown below, current debt is much higher than the 1930s:
As a percentage of GDP, debt is at an all-time high. Immediately prior to the Great Depression US debt was about 200% of GDP. It rose briefly to 300% as a result of massive government interventions to combat the Depression.
At the beginning of the current downturn, debt was about 370% of GDP. It is about 400% currently.
Eyeballing the chart from 1870 forward, debt levels are generally in the range of 150% of GDP. That appears to be the norm for the last 140 years. Only in the 1920s and recently did debt exceed 180% of GDP. Even funding World Wars I and II did not drive debt above 180%.
To return to 150% requires a reduction of about $30 Trillion in debt. That represents about two full years worth of GDP!
The Political Myths
After the 1930s politicians convinced themselves and the public of two things:
1. Free markets need government interventions to produce a healthy economy.
2. Keynesian pseudo science provided the tools necessary to manage the economy.
Both beliefs were false, but both aided politicians' insatiable drive for power and control. Once the public came to believe these myths, government owned the economy. Any economic problem became a political one. Economic slowdowns were no longer politically acceptable.
"Don't just stand there, do something" drove economic policy. It was politically impossible to allow an economy to correct on its own. Political action was required, even if such activity was ultimately harmful. Politicians had to do something, anything! Their constituents demanded it.
The "government is responsible" attitude quickly spread. Today, virtually any perceived problem or inequity is assumed to be fixable by government. Government readily took on responsibility for virtually every aspect of our lives.
The madness is evident. It is assumed that government creates jobs, educates kids, designs toilets and light bulbs. It is necessary to provide mortgages, retirement benefits and healthcare. "Green energy" and other new technologies are assumed impossible without the assistance of government.
This litany of the presumed need for government could continue for pages. Virtually all these presumptions are false. Worse, many in the public still believe that these "services" are "free."
Economic Reality
Every swing in the business cycle, no matter how mild, became the responsibility of government. Government was to step in and "fix" economic problems. Seventy years of such "fixes" preceded our current problem.
Economic downturns are both normal and necessary. Individual and business mistakes are remedied via economic slowdowns. Misplaced capital and labor is freed up for more productive uses. When this cleansing does not occur, an economy becomes less efficient and grows at a slower rate. The mistakes remain in place and are perpetuated.
Government intervention is not corrective. It is a cover up of prior mistakes. The phrase "pretend and extend" describes what happens. Instead of allowing the economy to correct, government attempts to avoid the correction and the pain by covering up the mistakes. That has been the history of much of the last 80 years. Continued interventionism brought the economy to this crisis point.
The artificial boom that began decades ago is exhausted. Response to the dot-com stock market bubble was the last coverup that "worked." The system was flooded with credit and one bubble was replaced with another. Now the housing bubble has burst, marking the high point of "pretend and extend."
Credit expansion since 2008 has been impotent. The real economy has stopped responding. Economists who advocate more stimulus or credit are either ill-trained or have political motives. Governmental stimulus and credit expansion created the problem. Recommendations for more of the same qualify as insanity per Albert Einstein's definition.
A Worldwide Problem
The US is not unique. Most of the developed world is burdened by excessive credit and government spending. Easy credit enabled governments to grow too large and individuals to take on too much debt. The point where markets are unwilling to provide more debt has arrived.
The position of the US, thought to be stronger than other countries, is not, as shown in this chart:
Rumors of another US credit downgrade circulate for good reason.
Governments everywhere are trying to prevent a massive economic and financial correction, but they will not succeed. In order for economies to return to health, debt must be liquidated. De-leveraging must occur. Debt will be paid down and/or defaulted upon. Normal economic growth cannot resume until excess debt is removed from the system.
The Problem With De-Leveraging
Reducing debt is known as de-leveraging. The ramifications of de-leveraging are not widely understood. Ray Dalio of Bridgewater Associates discussed the process on the Charlie Rose show (full transcript):
I think it's important to understand that we're going through a deleveraging. So we have to understand the big picture is -- there's a deleveraging. Three big themes: first there's a deleveraging; secondly we have a problem with monetary and fiscal policies are running out of ammunition; and thirdly we have an issue in terms of people most importantly who are at each other's throats politically and globally in terms of having a problem resolving those.
So then we begin the process in reverse as you can't spend as much you -- somebody else's income falls. And that process works in reverse.
Imagine you earned $100,000 a year and you didn't have any debt. You can go to a bank and borrow $10,000 a year. You can spend, therefore, $110 a year. When you spend $110,000 a year, somebody else earns $110,000 and they can go to a bank and there's a self-reinforcing process in which your debt rises in relationship to your income.
And that goes on for a long time and that goes on for 50 or 75 years through history. We've had 50, 75-year cycles and then you reach a point where you can't anymore get more debt and the process starts to change. And you can't leverage up. Traditionally the private sector leverages up, we leveraged up then we got to a point in 2007 where we had a bubble and that same sort of bubble that happened in Japan, same sort of bubble that happened in the Great Depression, meaning we reached our debt limits. Europe's reached its debt limits.
The current credit bubble is bigger than the one that preceded and caused The Great Depression. Consumer and government balance sheets are worse than they were eighty years ago. Income is incapable of supporting current debt levels.
Reducing debt to manageable levels will produce another Great Depression, likely greater and more painful than the original. Debt reduction requires lower spending and higher savings. Large amounts of debt will not be paid and will be liquidated via defaults.
Until now, governments have done everything to prevent this natural process from occurring. According to Dalio, governments have "no more tools in the tool kit."
Some governments and private companies will experience bankruptcy. Harrisburg, PA just did so. National government defaults will occur with Greece most likely be the first. When the economy begins to shrink, private companies will follow.
The Other Alternative
There is no other alternative cure for the economy other than de-leveraging.
Governments around the world will attempt to avoid de-leveraging because of the associated pain of a Great Depression. Unfortunately, that is not possible as Ludwig von Mises pointed out:
There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit (debt) expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit (debt) expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved.
Prior attempts to avoid corrections got us to this point. Now the supply of credit has been exhausted and taxpayers deeply indebted. Another coverup is not possible.
The simple summary of what years of governmental intervention accomplished is the impending economic and financial tragedy. Politicians from the past may have gleaned benefits. Our generation is left to pick up the pieces.
A printing press is available to most countries. It is no solution to the underlying economic problems, but is the method that the political class will try once again. Doing so will make the situation worse. It steals purchasing power from the private sector. In extremis, it will cause hyperinflation, effectively wiping out the value of savings and fixed contract obligations.
Credit creation cannot prevent de-leveraging. It merely defers it and impoverishes the citizens of a country prior to the onset of a Depression. Will the US government engage in such chicanery? Based on past history, the answer must be an unqualified Yes! Jon Hilsenrath, sometimes referred to as the unofficial trial balloon holder for the Fed, has reported:
Federal Reserve officials are starting to build a case for a new program of buying mortgage-backed securities to boost the ailing economy, though they appear unlikely to move swiftly.
Steve Englander of Citibank describes how Europe will be set up as an excuse for more credit creation:
Policymakers in the US, UK and elsewhere are using the euro crisis as cover to ease policy. For example, the FRBNY's Dudley yesterday characterized even the improved US numbers as disappointing and pointed to further measures if growth did not improve. Chinese growth targets and policy maker comments imply that measures might be taken if there is any sign of slowing. The BoE has already expanded it QE program.
That a Great Depression lies in our near future is not at issue. Whether we are forced down the route of hyperinflation before the correction occurs is unknown.
Our best outcome is a Depression tomorrow. Better sooner than later. That is what politicians have provided. Hopefully they will not "do something" but "just stand there." The economy needs to be left alone. Their help is killing us. Hyperinflation will truly destroy.
Monty Pelerin blogs at Monty Pelerin's World.
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