CAN-USA 2025 Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

[Jarnhamar]

He did not blink first - the plan all along was to get a direct meeting with the US in order to discuss directly tariffs and our mutual path to destruction.

Ford should have kept it at 25% and raised it 1% every time Trump says or tweets 51st state.

At least up to 51%

 

[Czech_pivo]

I'm not saying Trump is Hitler but holy hell, his staff dealing with him must be like Hitlers generals trying to constantly convince him the Germans are "fighting in a different direction".

Which leads to this question - 'Where is Steiner? Why is he not attacking!?!'

 

[JLB50]

Unfortunately Kevin, I'm not so sure. I wish I could be.

Right now I don’t think it likely happen. But if Trump manages to convince enough Americans that we are the scum of the earth and he has replaced pretty much all of his top brass in the military with those who swear fealty to him, then it could and may happen. I’m convinced that he wants to invade this country, maybe even more than he wants to see Canadians peacefully want to join the U.S. but knows he couldn’t get by with it at this particular point in time. He is quite unwell mentally and wants the “joy” of knowing that people have fought and died for HIM…not necessarily the United States…but HIM. I think as time goes on, unless his powers are blunted by Congress and/or the military, his derangement will feed on previous successes and demand even more actions designed to hurt other nations and people in order to please his supporters and to secure his place as the most powerful man in American if not world history.

 

[Remius]

100% - that would be the next move by Dougie -

And, if we really really wanted to bring it up a level, Manitoba or 'insert next province name here', would announce a 25% tariff on electricity at the SAME time that Dougie cut off electricity.

Harper set the tone earlier. Scorched earth if necessary to protect our sovereignty. the Harper Doctrine. I’m claiming that now.

 

[JLB50]

Which leads to this question - 'Where is Steiner? Why is he not attacking!?!'

The parallels with the 1930s are frightening.

 

[IKnowNothing]

Ford has exposed another weakness- multiple states import electricity, not just from Ontario. It puts the lie to Trump’s bluster about ‘not needing’ anything from Canada. Trump had to go to the point of pledging to announce a national emergency over being denied a particular Canadian export. That’s not a show of strength on his part.

And I don't think everyone appreciates the extent of that weakness. One province, one surcharge, on one inelastic good created a damn near panic. The Premiers and Feds have been working together on this all along- Ford as the most belligerent is likely driving the bus on right now- but this was a limited, calculated probe/ warning shot. Nickel, Quebec electricity, Albertan O&G, Uranium, Potash. 25% surcharges on key necessities blow Miran's BS model out of the water. Trump now knows that we are in fact allowed, and willing, to do things that don't follow the script.

 

[Remius]

‘I respect that’: Trump comments on Ford suspending electricity surcharge

Donald Trump says he respects Doug Ford’s decision to suspend Ontario’s surcharge on electricity, saying ‘there’s a very strong man in Canada.’

www.ctvnews.ca

LOL.

 

[Good2Golf]

How us suspending the 25% energy tariff (or whatever it was) after saying we won't until all US tariffs are dropped not blinking? Ford just went back on his word, no?

I think he’s negotiating and trading with Lutnik (and probably having backbriefed Carney and some/all of the other Premiers) and acting as Canada’s vanguard dealing with Team MAGA. If anyone has blinked, let recall back to when the US tariffs were imposed on Canada and Mexico on 1 Feb….oh, wait…

 

[Remius]

I think he’s negotiating and trading with Lutnik (and probably having backbriefed Carney and some/all of the other Premiers) and acting as Canada’s vanguard dealing with Team MAGA. If anyone has blinked, let recall back to when the US tariffs were imposed on Canada and Mexico on 1 Feb….oh, wait…

Like any good hockey team, you need a few brawlers.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Gotta love those BC Ferrys social media folks

https://twitter.com/x/status/1899542301636165781

 

[JLB50]

Harper set the tone earlier. Scorched earth if necessary to protect our sovereignty. the Harper Doctrine. I’m claiming that now.

In which case my opinion of Harper has just gone up.

 

[PrairieFella]

Gotta love those BC Ferrys social media folks

https://twitter.com/x/status/1899542301636165781

Is this a troll or does it have actual implications?

 

[dapaterson]

The parallels with the 1930s are frightening.

On Broadway the current revival of Cabaret is getting a combination of gasps, and inappropriate applause.

 

[Good2Golf]

Like any good hockey team, you need a few brawlers.

As many of our Southern neighbours would say…’trading paint!’

 

[daftandbarmy]

Is this a troll or does it have actual implications?

Ummm... there is no BC Ferry route from Canada to the US

There is the Blackball Ferry Line route from Victoria to Port Angeles, and the walk on ferry from Victoria to Seattle, but they're not operated by BC Ferry...

 

[dapaterson]

Is this a troll or does it have actual implications?

It's the equivalent of PEI declaring that they've secured their land border with the USA.

 

[daftandbarmy]

On Broadway the current revival of Cabaret is getting a combination of gasps, and inappropriate applause.

It would be hard to beat the original

 

[PrairieFella]

It's the equivalent of PEI declaring that they've secured their land border with the USA.

I figured as much haha.

 

[dapaterson]

It would be hard to beat the original

I saw a touring company in Toronto in '98 or '99, going in not knowing the story.

The finale scene of the first act. The dance with the gorilla. The final scene.

Properly done, the entire show is all about seduction and betrayal.

And I now know how seductive a pineapple can be...

 

[Czech_pivo]

‘I respect that’: Trump comments on Ford suspending electricity surcharge

Donald Trump says he respects Doug Ford’s decision to suspend Ontario’s surcharge on electricity, saying ‘there’s a very strong man in Canada.’

www.ctvnews.ca

LOL.

Just imagine if Trump had to deal with not only Dougie but Rob Ford as well - lol - game, set and match over in Canada's favour.