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CAN Enhanced (Permanent?) Fwd Presence in Latvia

The RCCS meanwhile:

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Can NATO stand on its own against Russia without the US?
I think so. particularly, the UK, France and Poland should be able to turn any Russian advances. The problem is nuclear weapons though. Time for the Baltics to start digging those trenches and laying those mines.
 
I think we might be finding out soon enough
The biggest battle will be getting the TB to authorize danger pay.

I feel like one of the lessons learned here for Europe,Canada, and many other countries is that it's time to stop trusting the US to be the world police.
 
The biggest battle will be getting the TB to authorize danger pay.

I feel like one of the lessons learned here for Europe,Canada, and many other countries is that it's time to stop trusting the US to be the world police.
Yes. And to not assume they wouldn’t actually enable our geo political rivals.

The US actually siding against the west wasn’t on anyone’s bingo cards. I can see why they didn’t want anyone else at these négociations
 
not counting the Baltics/Balkans and Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Czechia and Slovakia
European NATO has some
1000+ fighter jets
2000+ MBT
2500 +tracked IFV
2000 +tracked APC
1600 +wheeled IFV
2900 +wheeled APC
675 + tracked howitzers
350+ wheeled howitzers

how many of them are all ready to go?
another problem

The real deciding factor would be the planes and the ships. Russia stands no chance in the air and the Russian Navy would be made reefs in days by the likes of the French or Royal Navy. I wonder how many serviceable land vehicles the Russian Army actually has left.
 
The biggest battle will be getting the TB to authorize danger pay.

I feel like one of the lessons learned here for Europe,Canada, and many other countries is that it's time to stop trusting the US to be the world police.

It's not a matter of trusting, but the expectation the US will pay for it all the time. Trump is cutting things back to necessity, functionality, cutting massive waste and going for value for money. Whether departments and other fluff in the US government departments, but also foreign aid, etc. That unfortunately might include NATO. If the US is not getting value for their dollar, why pay it. Politics is running second to running his country as a successful, profitable business enabling better, more profitable shares for his citizens, the shareholders. This shouldn't surprise anyone. He ran his re-election campaign on these points. And just like last term, promises made, promises kept. We just weren't listening or paying attention. The American people and the homeland is his one and only priority. He can't be faulted for that. And the majority of US citizens, democrat and republican agree with what he is doing and how he is doing it. Those are the people he works for, not the EU, Mexico or Canada.

The world just got too comfortable, sitting back and waiting for the USA, to take care of whatever global problem came along. He sees no reason to support European countries that jails its citizens for calling someone gay or using the shit emoji on the internet. Vance put Europe on notice last week when he held a mirror up to them and hurt their feelings.
 
It's not a matter of trusting, but the expectation the US will pay for it all the time. Trump is cutting things back to necessity, functionality, cutting massive waste and going for value for money. Whether departments and other fluff in the US government departments, but also foreign aid, etc. That unfortunately might include NATO. If the US is not getting value for their dollar, why pay it. Politics is running second to running his country as a successful, profitable business enabling better, more profitable shares for his citizens, the shareholders. This shouldn't surprise anyone. He ran his re-election campaign on these points. And just like last term, promises made, promises kept. We just weren't listening or paying attention. The American people and the homeland is his one and only priority. He can't be faulted for that. And the majority of US citizens, democrat and republican agree with what he is doing and how he is doing it. Those are the people he works for, not the EU, Mexico or Canada.

The world just got too comfortable, sitting back and waiting for the USA, to take care of whatever global problem came along. He sees no reason to support European countries that jails its citizens for calling someone gay or using the shit emoji on the internet. Vance put Europe on notice last week when he held a mirror up to them and hurt their feelings.

When you take the emotion out of it, there is a lot of of this that hits the mark.
 
Yes. And to not assume they wouldn’t actually enable our geo political rivals.

The US actually siding against the west wasn’t on anyone’s bingo cards. I can see why they didn’t want anyone else at these négociations

Siding against the west? They are the west.

He has spoken a number of times with Zelensky, now he speaks with the Russians.

You don't go into a negotiation or a mediation with everyone at the table. You just don't. You feel out both sides, see what they want, what they'll give up and what they won't accept. Once you have a basis and a general consensus, THEN you bring the two sides together so all they need to do is hammer out the finer points and sign the agreement. Mediation/ negotiation 101 for Dummies.

That's how these things work. Zelensky got his back up because he's a comedian that doesn't know how things work. He's never had to deal with a ceasefire or peace agreement. He's a pseudo dictator without a real government or diplomats to make him understand these things. He has to learn on the fly and he just had his first lesson.
 
Well if this is accurate, we better get ready to step up, eastern europe is about to get a lot more dangerous.


Rumour and speculation designed to create tensions and further a favored narrative.

'an Eastern European security official tells BILD'
What eastern european security official? What's his name?

"European officials believe Trump is likely to agree to withdraw US troops from the Baltics and perhaps further west"
What European officials? Who are they and what's their names?

All reported in the BILD tabloid paper.

Bild (German: [bɪlt] ⓘ, lit. 'Picture') or Bild-Zeitung (German: [ˈbɪltˌt͡saɪ̯tʊŋ] ⓘ, lit. 'Picture Newspaper') is a German tabloid newspaper published by Axel Springer SE. The paper is published from Monday to Saturday; on Sundays, its sister paper Bild am Sonntag (lit. 'Bild on Sunday') is published instead, which has a different style and its own editors. Bild is tabloid in style but broadsheet in size. It is the best-selling European newspaper and has the sixteenth-largest circulation worldwide.[5] Bild has been described as "notorious for its mix of gossip, inflammatory language, and sensationalism" and as having a huge influence on German politicians.[6] Its nearest English-language stylistic and journalistic equivalent is often considered to be the British national newspaper The Sun, the second-highest-selling European tabloid newspaper.[7][8][9]

The Sun only sells that many papers because of the Sunshine girls showing their tits.
 
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It's not a matter of trusting, but the expectation the US will pay for it all the time. Trump is cutting things back to necessity, functionality, cutting massive waste and going for value for money.
Except for he is overrunning his headlights as he doesn't have a mandate to eliminate things Congress has mandated. If the Supreme Court had a pair they would kick him back down to the actual Constitutional powers of the Office.
Weather departments and other fluff in the US government departments, but also foreign aid, etc. That unfortunately might include NATO. If the US is not getting value for their dollar, why pay it. Politics is running second to running his country as a successful, profitable business enabling better, more profitable shares for his citizens, the shareholders. This shouldn't surprise anyone. He ran his re-election campaign on these points. And just like last term, promises made, promises kept. We just weren't listening or paying attention. The American people and the homeland is his one and only priority. He can't be faulted for that. And the majority of US citizens, democrat and republican agree with what he is doing and how he is doing it. Those are the people he works for, not the EU, Mexico or Canada.
His popularity is in freefall, as he is cutting a lot of things Americans depend on, and not making our lives any easier. His Oligarch buddy Musk is busy moving a lot of money towards his own companies, and reducing any oversight on his companies.
Politics and the Global Economy and Global Security Situation have MASSIVE effects on business. Trump works for himself - and Musk (as Musk has dug himself in like a tic). His promises mean shit, and he has set America back at least a decade in his short second stint in office to-date.
America is the ONE country in NATO that invoked Article 5 (After 9/11 for those not following history) - Non Member Partner Nations stepped up as well as members, and now 47 wants to fuck all that off and sell out to China and Russia.
The world just got too comfortable, sitting back and waiting for the USA, to take care of whatever global problem came along. He sees no reason to support European countries that jails its citizens for calling someone gay or using the shit emoji on the internet. Vance put Europe on notice last week when he held a mirror up to them and hurt their feelings.
Vance spoke at a Neo-Nazi rally (yes go look at the AfD platform). Then decided to lecture President Zelensky about not insulting 47's ego and how Ukraine was going to pay.

Embarrassing time to be an American.
 
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