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Humphrey Bogart said:I've met very few peopleoutinside the military that even know how to turn an iron on, much less use one.
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Humphrey Bogart said:I've met very few peopleoutinside the military that even know how to turn an iron on, much less use one.
Bird_Gunner45 said:...So, how does this all apply to RMC? The segregation of military leaders, who by our own leadership doctrine we want to be transformational has the double edged sword of removing persons from that society at a young age and indoctrinating them into the military way of thinking. On the surface this would seem to be a largely positive thing. However, this contributes to further distancing the future officers from the population that they represent and creating a "warrior caste". Further, as noted, the majority of the force is still represented by a relatively homogeneous group within Canadian society who largely have similar socio-economic backgrounds and belief systems. This further separates the officer corps from society, particularly when they are grouped together to reinforce the beliefs that they arrived to RMC with. As the individuals are generally from the same background and have the same beliefs than how can they be expected to represent the larger Canadian society? How can they be expected to be transformational and move the CAF to represent a society they themselves largely don't understand since they spent the bulk of their time isolated at RMC and Gagetown/Borden/Portage-la-Prairie/Esquimalt? And conversely, how do we expect the larger society, including academic society, to understand the military when there is little to no presence on civilian campuses? Situations like the WLU one seen recently are the flip side of the isolation of ideas and I would argue a similar dynamic in RMC, where a feminist presenter can be booed and harangued by a largely male audience with little to no ramifications (http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/royal-military-college-cadets-struggled-with-questions-of-sexual-consent-educator-1.3083831).
#WelcomeToMILNETdotCA...... where simply saying "I think" means:Humphrey Bogart said:It's a stupid argument lacking any sort of substance or facts to back it up.
dapaterson said:#WelcomeToNDHQ
Journeyman said:#WelcomeToMILNETdotCA...... where simply saying "I think" means:
a) it's unlikely that the poster is, and
b) facts are unnecessary (often because those pesky facts are contrary to the poster's ill-informed opinions)
dapaterson said:I never knew SJWs and radio rebroadcast capabilities. I thought they just used Twitter...
medicineman said:Twitter is an RRB capability if people keep Retweeting stuff...whether it's truthful or not.
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Lumber said:I'm not sure where to start. I was going to first counter that, as a member of the Navy, the navy isn't isolated, we work and live in cities (Victoria, Halifax), and not on large isolated basis in the sticks of Manitoba. However, then I thought about it, and as far as major Canadian cities go, they are pretty homogeneous (7% and 10% visible minority populations, respectively). For comparison, the Canadian average is 19.1%. So, being in the Navy doesn't help with our experience much.
ballz said:*Disclaimer, the following post contains a personal opinion based solely on personal experience. No apologies will be offered if you choose to read it*
Honestly, no matter where you're at in the military, I think most people are kind of isolated from the civilian world to some extent and most don't even realize it. When you're posted to a base in a big city, if you don't have a robust network of family and friends there (and my impression is most people don't when they are posted) you kind of end up with most of your interactions being with DND folk.
My first posting was to Gagetown and I lived in Fredericton for 5 years. I had a civilian girlfriend who grew up there, but outside of that all of my friends naturally became my peers in the Battalion. When I had a release in and was looking to land a job at an accounting firm and started to realize how important networking is in today's labour market, I quickly realized I was actually living in a complete military bubble for the previous 5 years. It was pretty eye-opening.
Now I'm in Edmonton and it's not much different. The one nice thing is the BJJ club I go to 2-3 times a week is almost all civilians as opposed to the one in Fredericton which was mostly CAF members... but ya... mostly military interactions around here for me, even though I do have some family in the city and friends from high school here.
daftandbarmy said:I've lived in Victoria for over 20 years and the only time I ever see the Navy in town is Remembrance Day.
... againOldgateboatdriver said:That's exactly my point, particularly as regards the timing of such an announcement. I mean, do the Libs really want their DefMin crucified? ???
MCG said:... again
But they probably don’t have to worry because I imagine the Conservatives will support this.
daftandbarmy said:I've lived in Victoria for over 20 years and the only time I ever see the Navy in town is Remembrance Day.