Arrogance Inc.

[Brad Sallows]

>Which is a better service to its public, the BBC or the CBC? The BBC is better funded and has way more stuff people are interested in.

Who cares?  You aren't paying for my magazine subscriptions or my theatre tickets.  Why should I pay for your sources of information and entertainment?

 

[Glorified Ape]

You're right, and a commercial TV station isn't one of them.

Like I said, we have PBS for all the public's needs (and PBS has much better programming to boot).

Isn't PBS American?

 

[Ranman]

Isn't PBS American?

What isn't? What would we do without cable? As long as the CRTC with its 40% content law breeds Artists like Reta McNeil the CBC will suck.

 

[Infanteer]

Isn't PBS American?

Well, the local one I got is close to the border, so there is some Canadian input.  But the last guy was right; what isn't American.  Most of CBC's programming is shows they snag from the American networks.  If all we are justifying CBC for is the 10 o'clock news, then I don't see sufficent enough reason for the goverment TV station - we don't need a Pravda and CTV has a 24 hour news channel anyways....

 

[Thirstyson]

Well, the local one I got is close to the border, so there is some Canadian input.  But the last guy was right; what isn't American.  Most of CBC's programming is shows they snag from the American networks.  If all we are justifying CBC for is the 10 o'clock news, then I don't see sufficent enough reason for the goverment TV station - we don't need a Pravda and CTV has a 24 hour news channel anyways....

The only American show on CBC is the daily 5pm dose of the Simpsons. Nice try though.

 

[-rb]

The only American show on CBC is the daily 5pm dose of the Simpsons. Nice try though.

Not exactly, there are many shows from American and British origin that appear on the CBC, Antiques Roadshow, Coronation Street, other kids cartoon shows (American) etc etc....not that I watch any of it anyways.

nice try though
cheers.

 

[Infanteer]

Actually, you're right - I just looked up CBC's programming, and it seems I mixed it up with CTV (which airs all the popular shows).

So, your tax dollars go to BBC world news, 5 hours of cartoons, Antique roadshow, 5 days of Coronation Street, a few other programs (Red Green, Rick Mercer, 22 minutes), weekend movies (this week is Return of the Jedi), CBC Sports, and the News.  All of this and more is available on other channels (OLN, YTV, CTV Newsworld, etc, etc) to those who wish to pay for the services.

 

[-rb]

The only American show on CBC is the daily 5pm dose of the Simpsons. Nice try though.

OK, after checking the programming guide and the background on a few shows I though were American...you guys are correct.

Is this innappropriate directed at myself?  :-X

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Yeah, but the Simpsons has lot's of Canadian content; ;D

http://ccr.ptbcanadian.com/simpsons/indirect.htm

 

[jmacleod]

I grew up in Halifax during World War II. The CBC was then, and until about 10-15 years ago, one
of the great public broadcasters - but then it changed. It's mandate is indeed to support the
Liberal Party, particularly the so-called "left-wing" of the Party. So the CBC got a Board of Directors
carefully culled to reflect on the new Canada; multi-cultural, dominated by left wing socialists,focused
on changing the traditional values which built this country, largely through Scots/Irish British and
French Canadians, plus the influx from central Europe and Jews who melded into the the Canadian
mosiac - along with aboriginals and later Inuit. But the CBC focused on the elite of the University
sector, who were and are anti American, anti Military and pro expansion of certain  human rights
which are in fact not "rights" but choices. Thus the "news" is what I call motivated - it is anti-Israeli
and pro causes which do not support the traditional North American values. I could say more, but
got pissed off about a decade ago with CBC Radio 1, never listen to it, Radio 2 is classical music,one
does not get the continual socialist rant. Never watch CBC English TV here, but I must say the
French Quebec based network is pretty good. CBC must be sold off - I understand the late Dr.Isadore
Asper Can West Global actually considered buying it. If Izzy Asper owned it, Canada would have been
much better served MacLeod

 

[Glorified Ape]

Well, the local one I got is close to the border, so there is some Canadian input.   But the last guy was right; what isn't American.   Most of CBC's programming is shows they snag from the American networks.   If all we are justifying CBC for is the 10 o'clock news, then I don't see sufficent enough reason for the goverment TV station - we don't need a Pravda and CTV has a 24 hour news channel anyways....

I dunno, I see quite a bit of Canadian stuff on CBC (go figure) - stuff that probably wouldn't have made it onto CTV, Global, etc. Corner Gas sucks, but Da Vinci's Inquest is alright, along with Cold Case Files (or whatever the hell that show is called) and, of course, the Air Farce.

My point with the PBS being American thing is that you can't really say "we have PBS anyway" because it's not ours, nor do we have any appreciable measure of control over it. 

 

[Fishbone Jones]

My point with the PBS being American thing is that you can't really say "we have PBS anyway" because it's not ours, nor do we have any appreciable measure of control over it. 

Exactly, nor should we. When they lose independence of thought and word, they become useless.

 

[48Highlander]

does that mean having an army is not "worth doing" then?

a little late, but....

Having an army can be made to generate a profit too.  Annexing land, and pillagin villiages can be quite profitable.  Soldiers can be hired out as mercenaries.  There's lots of ways to make an army profitable, we just prefer not to do it.  Our army has a specific purpose which cannot be filled by any other organization - therefore we SHOULD ensure it's publicaly funded, and that making a profit isn't a consideration in how we use it.  The CBC on the other hand does not provide any unique services and can be easily replaced by existing organizations.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Gotta wonder how much extra cash is on the way to the CBC to pay for their brand spanking new contract:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/election2005/spring_spending.html

 

[In the light of things]

Ever heard of private enterprise?  If CBC wants our money, maybe they should show stuff we actually want to see.  Then advertisers will pay them money and they will have all the funding they want.

Well, they cut most of the Anne of Green Gables crap, now they need to cut the rest.  IMO CBC should be more like the discovery channel/history channel/comedy network while maintaining mostly Canadian programming (including hockey night in Canada  ;D.  And stop with all the stupid made-for-TV movies that nobody watches/cares about.  At least Red Green is still on.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

  At least Red Green is still on.

Afetr fifteen seasons Red Green has run out of duct tape. It's all done. Hung it up last week IIRC. Might be able to catch it in reruns though.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Afetr fifteen seasons Red Green has run out of duct tape. It's all done. Hung it up last week IIRC. Might be able to catch it in reruns though.

I could cry.

 

[In the light of things]

Yeah but the new ones are still on CBC Fridays at 7:00 till the seasons up, I got a few months before I have to shoot myself.

 

[Glorified Ape]

Exactly, nor should we. When they lose independence of thought and word, they become useless.

Where does the CBC mean we lose independence of word or thought? It's not as though it's the ONLY TV station. There's plenty to choose from and such independence is alive and well.

 

[RangerRay]

Pravda Canada should be broken up and privatised ASAP.  If their left-wing navel-gazing crap really is popular, it will thrive in the free market of ideas.