Army Reserve Restructuring

[dapaterson]

The CAF has successfully messed up sustainment to the point where we are arguing about levels and components where it should be vested.

Short version: the Reg F has been too lazy, too long, focused on CBT Arms and ignoring CSS, and then pushing those foundational sustainment issues to the Res F.

Readiness is personnel, equipment and materiel. When you try to shortcut any one of those three you fail. The Reg F has failed to generate and sustain readiness.

 

[MilEME09]

The CAF has successfully messed up sustainment to the point where we are arguing about levels and components where it should be vested.

Short version: the Reg F has been too lazy, too long, focused on CBT Arms and ignoring CSS, and then pushing those foundational sustainment issues to the Res F.

Readiness is personnel, equipment and materiel. When you try to shortcut any one of those three you fail. The Reg F has failed to generate and sustain readiness.

I think a CSS divorce is in order, and a PY increase when the the CDS gets the increase to 88k that she wants. Service battalions split back in Maintenance battalions and logistics battalions. This would increase the CSS support needed to properly support the brigades.

 

[PrairieFella]

I think a CSS divorce is in order, and a PY increase when the the CDS gets the increase to 88k that she wants. Service battalions split back in Maintenance battalions and logistics battalions. This would increase the CSS support needed to properly support the brigades.

Reallocating CSS to the reserve line units would go a long way in preventing institutional backlogs. Don't let first line stuff become second line stuff.

 

[KevinB]

I think a CSS divorce is in order, and a PY increase when the the CDS gets the increase to 88k that she wants. Service battalions split back in Maintenance battalions and logistics battalions. This would increase the CSS support needed to properly support the brigades.

IMHO the entire kettle of fish needs to be rebuilt. Everything is build on rotting timbers.

The entire Army needs a reorg.

Make 2 Divisions, then have a Divisional Support Brigade, and Divisional Sustainment Brigade per Division.
To me the majority of Combat Arms positions - outside of Rapid Reaction and Pre-Deployed Forces should be Reservists.
I would quite willingly cut one of Reg Force CMBG's to allocate those PY to CSS roles.

While I would accept a 30/70 ratio (Reg to Reserve) for Combat Arms, the CSS side should be 70/30.

 

[Fabius]

I think a CSS divorce is in order, and a PY increase when the the CDS gets the increase to 88k that she wants. Service battalions split back in Maintenance battalions and logistics battalions. This would increase the CSS support needed to properly support the brigades.

When the Infantry Corps is developing and discussing their planned ask for around 2000 of the extra 13,000-14,000 PYs and there is almost zero discussion of the CSS impacts of their plans for the Bns it’s hard not too laugh in sad frustration with our own institutions.

 

[PrairieFella]

When the Infantry Corps is developing and discussing their planned ask for around 2000 of the extra 13,000-14,000 PYs and there is almost zero discussion of the CSS impacts of their plans for the Bns it’s hard not too laugh in sad frustration with our own institutions.

What the hell do they plan to do with two full battalions worth of PYs? Stand up a new regiment? With what kit and infrastructure?

 

[KevinB]

What the hell do they plan to do with two full battalions worth of PYs? Stand up a new regiment? With what kit and infrastructure?

But think of the new cap badges they can make...

 

[Fabius]

What the hell do they plan to do with two full battalions worth of PYs? Stand up a new regiment? With what kit and infrastructure?

Reintroduce actual Cbt support platoons, additional personnel in the rifle coys etc. not additional units.
However the increased heavy weapons and vehicles should definitely be accompanied by substantial increases to the CSS elements. The increasing digital C2 infrastructure would also be helped by increased CS elements.

However neither of those are infantry PYs.

 

[KevinB]

Reintroduce actual Cbt support platoons, additional personnel in the rifle coys etc. not additional units.
However the increased heavy weapons and vehicles should definitely be accompanied by substantial increases to the CSS elements. The increasing digital C2 infrastructure would also be helped by increased CS elements.

However neither of those are infantry PYs.

Each 1st and 2nd BN from The RCR, PPCLI and R22eR should drop to 30/70


There I found the PY’s

 

[FJAG]

I would love see ARes SVC Bns be stand alone echelon support organizations for whole CBGs.

Me too. Both log and maint.

It makes no sense for a tactically orientated unit to be resp for institutional functions

I agree with the principle of having an organization that is not part of the deployable service battalion. That can be done in two ways, either a completely independent structure of the

Each 1st and 2nd BN from The RCR, PPCLI and R22eR should drop to 30/70


There I found the PY’s

Disagree. Each 1st Battalion of the RCR, R22eR and PPClI should drop the term "1st Battalion," stay at 100% RegF and be combined into one light brigade.

Meanwhile the six 2nd and 3rd battalion of each regiment should be broken into eighteen battalion headquarters and CS coy cores, and eighteen fully equipped mechanized rifle companies and used to form the 30% portion of eighteen 30/70 mechanized hybrid battalions using the names of eighteen ARes battalions located/centred in urban centres. Use those to form one RegF light brigade, three hybrid armoured brigades and three + hybrid mech brigades. Same, same for the armoured and artillery and CSS.

 

[MilEME09]

Me too. Both log and maint.

I agree with the principle of having an organization that is not part of the deployable service battalion. That can be done in two ways, either a completely independent structure of the

Disagree. Each 1st Battalion of the RCR, R22eR and PPClI should drop the term "1st Battalion," stay at 100% RegF and be combined into one light brigade.

Meanwhile the six 2nd and 3rd battalion of each regiment should be broken into eighteen battalion headquarters and CS coy cores, and eighteen fully equipped mechanized rifle companies and used to form the 30% portion of eighteen 30/70 mechanized hybrid battalions using the names of eighteen ARes battalions located/centred in urban centres. Use those to form one RegF light brigade, three hybrid armoured brigades and three + hybrid mech brigades. Same, same for the armoured and artillery and CSS.

Break off the three jump companies and reform 1 CPB from ww2. Have them report directly to 1 div.

 

[FJAG]

Break off the three jump companies and reform 1 CPB from ww2. Have them report directly to 1 div.

I see 1 Div being removed from CJOC and leaving 1 Div as the FG HQ generating for Europe and 2 Div as the FG HQ for everything else. Both Div HQs should be capable of FGing a div HQ (or slice of a div HQ) if required.

Somewhere amongst the boat that is CJOC there ought to be an element that can do

I'd put the RegF light brigade and the para capability in 2 Div. I'm agnostic as to whether the para capability should be in one battalion or split into one company in each of the three battalions. At least one battalion HQ and CS and CSS company needs to be para qualified so that a three coy para bn can be FGed - to me that nudges me to the CPB concept - but that would put the regimental mafias' noses out of joint.

 

[MilEME09]

I see 1 Div being removed from CJOC and leaving 1 Div as the FG HQ generating for Europe and 2 Div as the FG HQ for everything else. Both Div HQs should be capable of FGing a div HQ (or slice of a div HQ) if required.

Somewhere amongst the boat that is CJOC there ought to be an element that can do

I'd put the RegF light brigade and the para capability in 2 Div. I'm agnostic as to whether the para capability should be in one battalion or split into one company in each of the three battalions. At least one battalion HQ and CS and CSS company needs to be para qualified so that a three coy para bn can be FGed - to me that nudges me to the CPB concept - but that would put the regimental mafias' noses out of joint.

Oh but that's the beauty of it good sir, by creating a new jump battalion, we create a new mafia to fight back. Fight fire with fire, tackling that problem will be a problem for the CDS in 2100

 

[Eaglelord17]

Break off the three jump companies and reform 1 CPB from ww2. Have them report directly to 1 div.

Alternatively cut the jump companies and re-role them as light infantry.

If we have no capability to effectively use jump companies, and no actual intent to use jump companies, there is no reason to have jump companies.