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That's a nice change, the CPF crests/mottos are generally pretty lame.
 
You don't get a new crest every time a new ship hits the water. The CPF's crests are, where they existed (just about all of them but St. John's), the crests of the WWII ships of the same name.

Everything gets passed on from early ship to new ship: Battle honours, crest, name plates - if still in existence - etc. etc.

When MONTREAL commissioned, we, at DONNACONA, returned all the original MONTREAL's memorabilia that had been entrusted to us to the new ship of that name and retrieved the original ship's bell from the city of Montreal for them.
 
dimsum said:
:ROFLMAO:

I know, I know...they didn't write that in pre-Unification RCN
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There was a story in the CBC about awarding the VC to Private LaRochelle.

They had this picture of Hampton-Gray and take a look at his rank
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Shit like this pisses me off to no end. So I DM'd Murray Brewster and voila!

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Lt. (RCNVR) Robert Hampton Gray, in a photo taken when he received his pilot wings in September 1941. He received the Victoria Cross posthumously for sinking a Japanese warship in 1945. (Veterans Affairs Canada)


I get shit done!!!! :)
 
FSTO said:
Lt. (RCNVR) Robert Hampton Gray, in a photo taken when he received his pilot wings in September 1941. He received the Victoria Cross posthumously for sinking a Japanese warship in 1945. (Veterans Affairs Canada)


I get shit done!!!! :)
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Oldgateboatdriver said:
You don't get a new crest every time a new ship hits the water. The CPF's crests are, where they existed (just about all of them but St. John's), the crests of the WWII ships of the same name.

Everything gets passed on from early ship to new ship: Battle honours, crest, name plates - if still in existence - etc. etc.

When MONTREAL commissioned, we, at DONNACONA, returned all the original MONTREAL's memorabilia that had been entrusted to us to the new ship of that name and retrieved the original ship's bell from the city of Montreal for them.
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HMCS Ottawa's 341 crest may be slightly different then the 229's crest as the 3rd Ottawa was named after the river not the city . I seem to recall the 229 crest has the water in a different spot or something.

Of course the crew has a tradition of rebelling against the Ottawa name (as they should) because the second Ottawa was HMCS Griffon. Against the CO's and crews wishes the ship was renamed. So all of the crests on the CPO's mess, Jr's mess, ships mugs, hats and other canteen items all have the original Ottawa griffon on them! The second Ottawa's crest is below besides the original Ottawa's crest and of course the current crest...

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FSTO said:
There was a story in the CBC about awarding the VC to Private LaRochelle.

They had this picture of Hampton-Gray and take a look at his rank
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Shit like this pisses me off to no end. So I DM'd Murray Brewster and voila!

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Lt. (RCNVR) Robert Hampton Gray, in a photo taken when he received his pilot wings in September 1941. He received the Victoria Cross posthumously for sinking a Japanese warship in 1945. (Veterans Affairs Canada)


I get shit done!!!! :)
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So he was awarded the VC for being a pilot, you’re saying?
 
Underway said:
HMCS Ottawa's 341 crest may be slightly different then the 229's crest as the 3rd Ottawa was named after the river not the city . I seem to recall the 229 crest has the water in a different spot or something.

Of course the crew has a tradition of rebelling against the Ottawa name (as they should) because the second Ottawa was HMCS Griffon. Against the CO's and crews wishes the ship was renamed. So all of the crests on the CPO's mess, Jr's mess, ships mugs, hats and other canteen items all have the original Ottawa griffon on them! The second Ottawa's crest is below besides the original Ottawa's crest and of course the current crest...

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Not quite, but close:

Order is reverse: The H60 crest is the original OTTAWA crest, as she was the first.

The second OTTAWA was never HMCS GRIFFON, which is the Thunder Bay Naval Reserve Unit. She was HMS GRIFFIN. Her crest with the Griffon may never have been an official crest but a WWII improvisation. As for the current OTTAWA, since she is a "City" class, they could have modified her crest, but decided to stick to the "River" class OTTAWA III crest without modification nevertheless.

Ref: Badges of the Canadian Navy, J. Graeme Arbuckle, Nimbus Publishing (1987)
 
Oldgateboatdriver said:
Not quite, but close:

Order is reverse: The H60 crest is the original OTTAWA crest, as she was the first.

The second OTTAWA was never HMCS GRIFFON, which is the Thunder Bay Naval Reserve Unit. She was HMS GRIFFIN. Her crest with the Griffon may never have been an official crest but a WWII improvisation. As for the current OTTAWA, since she is a "City" class, they could have modified her crest, but decided to stick to the "River" class OTTAWA III crest without modification nevertheless.

Ref: Badges of the Canadian Navy, J. Graeme Arbuckle, Nimbus Publishing (1987)
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I knew it was spelled differently and of course just typed out the wrong way anyways... lol. As for the order yes completely agree. I just posted the images in the order I found them, just to test you of course... :rolleyes:
 
Oldgateboatdriver said:
You don't get a new crest every time a new ship hits the water. The CPF's crests are, where they existed (just about all of them but St. John's), the crests of the WWII ships of the same name.

Everything gets passed on from early ship to new ship: Battle honours, crest, name plates - if still in existence - etc. etc.

When MONTREAL commissioned, we, at DONNACONA, returned all the original MONTREAL's memorabilia that had been entrusted to us to the new ship of that name and retrieved the original ship's bell from the city of Montreal for them.
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No, but they can (and have been) updated when a new ship gets commissioned with the same name.

Doesn't change the fact that the CPF crests are inherently non-warship like and generally pretty lame; they are more suited for auxiliaries and non-combatants. The Tribal class ones were much better, hopefully they do something similar for the CSCs.
 
Wouldn't that depend on wether or not they "recycle" past names (hence past crests) or use completely new ones (with crests to be newly minted)?
 
Oldgateboatdriver said:
Wouldn't that depend on wether or not they "recycle" past names (hence past crests) or use completely new ones (with crests to be newly minted)?
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Yes, and I'm hoping they go with something better than the CPFs (which likely won't get swapped over as there is an overlap of the ships in operation). There are plenty of existing names that could be used, but I'm a big fan of a 'First Nations' class where the old crests are redone (with the relevant FN band having input).

Lots of pretty amazing FN artists, think that would be a pretty concrete step towards reconciliation. The war canoes were the first real Canadian warships, so why not?
 
Name them after former ADM Mats! Imagine a crest with a cheezy bowtie for HMCS Williams!
 
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