KinCanuck - Are you a Recruiting Officer? Were you ever a Recruiting Officer? It would seem you have a great knowledge of Recruiting and the Recruiting system? Please enlighten some of us whom HAVE actually worked in this system! Would not post something on this site if I didnt really know what I was talking about first hand and not through listening to others - although I do respect you for your thoughts, maybe its time you open your mind to others whom have walked the walk! But then again some us simply will turn a blind eye to the truth - maybe you should actually listen to some new recruits rather than smelling the lovely flowers that grow in your perfect world! Maybe as an officer more of you and your world (whom apparently get paid to make decisions) can try and change the above and keep us poor ranting NCMs from having to Vent/speak to others/etc (which by the way is our god given right as Canadian Citizens under the Charter) Try listening to your NCM corp for a change on the topics that may seem unworthy or trivial to you - as maybe these topics are what concern us - your followers! Nuff Said refuse to debate further. thanks guys for your insights, take my thoughts as you want, as to some of us they are important.