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Bird_Gunner45 said:
(the KKK was originally a legion for confederate vets).

A quick search shows no such origin. The closest is "A group including many former Confederate veterans (I'd guess that a high proportion of men in the south at that time were Confederate veterans, so that should be no surprise, and probably of no special significance) founded the first branch of the Ku Klux Klan as a social club in Pulaski, Tennessee, in 1866." at http://www.history.com/topics/ku-klux-klan

Other links: http://blackrepublican.blogspot.ca/2015/10/the-ku-klux-klan-was-terrorist-arm-of_56.html, http://www.conservapedia.com/Ku_Klux_Klan, and http://blackrepublican.blogspot.ca/2015/10/the-ku-klux-klan-was-terrorist-arm-of_56.html

 
Loachman said:
A quick search shows no such origin. The closest is "A group including many former Confederate veterans (I'd guess that a high proportion of men in the south at that time were Confederate veterans, so that should be no surprise, and probably of no special significance) founded the first branch of the Ku Klux Klan as a social club in Pulaski, Tennessee, in 1866." at http://www.history.com/topics/ku-klux-klan

Other links: http://blackrepublican.blogspot.ca/2015/10/the-ku-klux-klan-was-terrorist-arm-of_56.html, http://www.conservapedia.com/Ku_Klux_Klan, and http://blackrepublican.blogspot.ca/2015/10/the-ku-klux-klan-was-terrorist-arm-of_56.html

I can't find my original sources since they're from my university days, so I concede that point. Throughout the south there were many legion type groups that formed for local confederate vets which often became hot beds for anger, hatred, and sometimes low level insurgency. The group that formed the KKK in TN was likely one of said groups, though there wasnt direct equivalent of the RCL in the south.
 
Bird_Gunner45 said:
If humour is the intent use an emoji. If not, than I prefer facts.

As I said....Some people have no sense of humour.

If you need facts for this post, then I just have to shake my head and throw my hands up in the air:

George Wallace said:
Best Quote I saw today:

  "BLACK PEOPLE WHO WERE NEVER SLAVES
ARE FIGHTING
WHITE PEOPLE WHO WERE NEVER NAZIS
OVER CONFEDERATE STATUES
ERECTED BY DEMOCRATS
...BECAUSE DEMOCRATS CAN'T EVEN STAND THEIR OWN HISTORY ANYMORE
AND
SOMEHOW IT'S TRUMP'S FAULT.”


anonymous
 
George Wallace said:
As I said....Some people have no sense of humour.

If you need facts for this post, then I just have to shake my head and throw my hands up in the air:

The problem isn't the "joke" as it were. The problem is the people who don't understand how the quotes are wrong or misleading and use it to form opinions.

 
George Wallace said:
Not to mention the five decades of folks wearing t-shirts sporting Che Guevara's image.
I'll buy that, too.
 
Loachman said:
Republicans fought slavery and elected the first black US Senator, Hiram Revels, and first black House members, Jefferson Long and Joseph Rainey, in 1869.

Any predictions as to when the Republicans will run their first African-American candidate for president, as the Democrats did in 2008 and 2012?
 
How about a Sikh American: Nimrata "Nikki" Haley in 2012 for VPres, then POTUS in 16?
 
Rifleman62 said:
How about a Sikh American: Nimrata "Nikki" Haley in 2012 for VPres, then POTUS in 16?

"In 2012, former Governor Mitt Romney considered her for his vice-presidential running mate.

Haley was mentioned in January 2016 as a potential candidate for the vice presidency in the 2016 U.S. presidential election."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Haley#Potential_vice-presidential_candidacy

Any predictions as to when the Republicans will run their first African-American candidate for president, as the Democrats did in 2008 and 2012?


 
They're not into virtue signalling like the left, nor rigging their primaries in favour of an anointed candidate, so they'll do so when one seeks the nomination and wins it fairly.

I'm waiting to see if Ivanka tries for it in 2024.

And to see how many women support her because she's a woman.
 
Should have read: How about a Sikh American: Nimrata "Nikki" Haley in 2012 2020 for VPres, then POTUS in 16 2024?

Pence to be POTUS in 2020.
 
Rifleman62 said:
Pence to be POTUS in 2020.

I'm not eligible to vote in their elections, but Jimmy Kimmel seems to like that idea. Probably sooner than 2020 from the sound of it,

"And I’m asking you, the people who supported Donald Trump, to step in and help for the good of this country. Mike Pence is ready, he’s boring. He’s relatively sane. He looks like a friendly neighbor you would borrow a lawn mower from. Let’s get him in there before it’s too late."
http://ew.com/tv/2017/08/15/jimmy-kimmel-trump-total-disaster/


 
Loachman said:
They're not into virtue signalling like the left, nor rigging their primaries in favour of an anointed candidate, so they'll do so when one seeks the nomination and wins it fairly.

I'm waiting to see if Ivanka tries for it in 2024.

And to see how many women support her because she's a woman.

The super candidate category is part of the written system of the Democratic nomination process. It is no more "rigging" the primaries than the electoral college "rigs" the election. It's just part of the process.

As for Ivanka; Republican women didn't support a woman running for president in 2016. My guess is that they'll vote Ivanka down during the primaries in favour of a Republican man.  ;D

[cheers]
 
Loachman said:
I'm waiting to see if Ivanka tries for it in 2024.

Ivanka 2024, Don Jr. 2032, Eric 2040, Tiffany 2048, Barron 2056...

Assuming that losing the Popular Vote will never count, and that Fox News will never turn against the family dynasty*, I expect she will inherit daddy's job as president. 

*Especially unlikely since the Simpsons have been told to go easy on Fox News after "No. 1 with racists" joke.  :)
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/simpsons-creator-fox-asked-easy-fox-news-article-1.3351510

I'm waiting to see how much support Republicans receive in 2020 from African-Americans, Asians, Hispanics, Jewish people, and LGBT compared to 2016.  :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016#Voter_demographics
 
mariomike said:
I'm waiting to see how much support Republicans receive in 2020 from African-Americans, Asians, Hispanics, Jewish people, and LGBT compared to 2016.  :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016#Voter_demographics

Those are very interesting statistics. I don't see much hope that there is a viable middle ground anywhere in the foreseeable future.

:cheers:
 
mariomike said:
I'm waiting to see how much support Republicans receive in 2020 from African-Americans, Asians, Hispanics, Jewish people, and LGBT compared to 2016.  :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016#Voter_demographics

Identity politics is poison, just ask the Democratic party about last year. If you focus on obtaining certain groups approval by running candidates based on race and ethnicity you are selling yourself short. As for when the Republican party will run an African American candidate, why does it matter? Candidates run in the primary and one wins, it has nothing to do with rigging the results for a certain candidate. The Democratic party and their shenanigans this past election cycle came back to haunt them.
 
mariomike said:
I'm not eligible to vote in their elections, but Jimmy Kimmel seems to like that idea. Probably sooner than 2020 from the sound of it,

Donald Trump is far more likely to win a second term than people like Jimmy Kimmel think.
 
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