Colin Parkinson
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wiki wrong!!!!! I'm shocked, my whole world has been undermined...... ;D
the devil is always in the details.
the devil is always in the details.
Opposition for the sake of opposing....The NDP will be meeting this week with the Canadian group that's pitching a plan to resurrect the Avro Arrow as a solution to the government's fighter jet problems.
"We've got a great aerospace industry in Canada, and of course, updating, bringing a much more modern version of the Avro Arrow or something along those lines would make a lot more sense," NDP leader Thomas Mulcair said Sunday, comparing the storied Canadian jet to the U.S.-built F-35 the government was on track to purchase.
"We could define our own needs for our armed forces, our weather conditions, and we could build something in Canada, leaving all the benefits here instead of shipping those jobs south."
The government turned down the idea from the consortium of engineers and design experts, who said their idea would produce a faster, more efficient jet that would cost Canadians less than the F-35s, and boost the national economy.
The Conservatives said the proposal is unrealistic and too risky.
Despite the government's rejection, the NDP is willing to give the idea some thought.
The NDP's military procurement critic Matthew Kellway has scheduled a meeting this week with Marc Bourdeau, the president of Bourdeau Industries, which is spearheading the proposal ....
milnews.ca said:Canada's NDP: Pushing 50 Year Old Defence Solutions!Opposition for the sake of opposing....
Colin P said:spend money configuring it to take the US based weapons we use.
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairfo/articles/20110807.aspx
delavan said:is that it hasn't been sold to other countries...
delavan said:Another point against the RAFALE, is that it hasn't been sold to other countries...doesn't seem to be a popular plane in the fighter jet world, for whatever reasons.
They just recently proved their worth in Libya.... I assume buyers prefer either next gen or battle proven aircrafts..
Thucydides said:If the NDP and others really want to go all "back to the future" on aircraft procurement, the Boeing YAL-1 Airborne Laser Testbed is probably available since the USAF has been directed to end the program. Not even the Arrow can outrun a laser beam.... >
Jim Seggie said:But it's it attached to a frickin shark? >
Words_Twice said:The F-35, IMHO is a plane that attempts to do everything, albiet poorly. Lets buy 150 Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornets for the same amount of money, and be done with it. It's a proven platform, and it will perform any mission we ask of it.
SherH2A said:When I first saw this thread, I thought it was a hoax or a joke. How could anyone seriously consider updating a fifty year old design, one which never went into service with any nation?
Words_Twice said:The F-35, IMHO is a plane that attempts to do everything, albiet poorly. Lets buy 150 Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornets for the same amount of money, and be done with it. It's a proven platform, and it will perform any mission we ask of it.
BobSlob said:Or... F-15Es! I firmly believe that'd be a better fit for Canada.
Michael O'Leary said:I would suggest they are not. Someone is trying to create and ride an emotional wave of political lobbying and public enthusiasm which would lead to political decisions to use the DND budget to recreate a new sector of the Canadian aviation industry, design a plane around the "Arrow concept" and produce just the numbers we would be buying, in addition to the lifecycle maintenance requirements. Given advancements in technology and design since the 1950s, I expect the only part of the Avro Arrow that would actually survive is the name of the plane.
Michael O'Leary said:I would suggest they are not. Someone is trying to create and ride an emotional wave of political lobbying and public enthusiasm which would lead to political decisions to use the DND budget to recreate a new sector of the Canadian aviation industry, design a plane around the "Arrow concept" and produce just the numbers we would be buying, in addition to the lifecycle maintenance requirements. Given advancements in technology and design since the 1950s, I expect the only part of the Avro Arrow that would actually survive is the name of the plane.