CorporalMajor said:
You're excused
CorporalMajor said:
No one said you were
CorporalMajor said:
and Ofc I read this thread
What's "Ofc"?
CorporalMajor said:
.... Perhaps I was unclear,
Perhaps...
CorporalMajor said:
so let me reword it - the fact is that I'm told by many of my superiors and my dad who is in the know, that the trade is in very high demand. They said, "you'll never be unemployed, units are scrambling for clerks these days"
If RMS was to be a re-muster only trade you would have far less people joining because administration in the forces can be very SLOW and complicated as it is, which can really discourage people new to the army from joining.
Example: Freind of mine who's an OCdt actually switched units because the first's admin office was bewildering him that much. Same with someone who didn't even bother geting on BMQ or SQ for the same reason...she found something else to do for the summer.
You unwittingly prove my point. Your OCDT friend (I assume he was/is Cbt Arms?) found the administrative system confusing. This was, no doubt, compounded by the fact that the RMS sp was, IN ALL PROBABILITY, inexperienced with life as a Cbt Arms soldier - they didn't understand his confusion, or the pressures on him - all they knew was the "book way" of doing things. Same goes for your friend who quit - the admin support simply didn't understand - their emphasis was on "administering" - NOT "soldiering".
CorporalMajor said:
Now of course it's up to them to get past such problems, but that girl could have potentially became a very useful solider. (I didn't even know the army was for me until a couple of months ago.) I don't know how big this problem is, but when it comes to the army dying for a given trade, more is more.
"more is more"?? Bull hockey. Give me five clks who UNDERSTAND what soldiering is any day over ten who've never been outside their Orderly Room. The first five know a few things (as well as the RMS knowledge they gained after remuster):
- just how good they've got it
- just how much pressure their Cbt Arms buddies are under - "I don't know WHY I'm here, Warrant - my Sergeant-Major just told me to report here, right bloody now!!" (A true (if not verbatim) representation of conversations I've had with young Pte's more than once).
- just how much their Cbt Arms buddies DON'T know - which lack of knowledge can bite them badly.
- what it is to be "mission oriented".
Just to name a few that come immediately to mind.
CorporalMajor said:
Given that, I just think it would be unecessary and impractical to make it a re-muster only trade because I am sure it would discourage people who know they could do THAt trade best from joining, like myself for example. Sure I could be ifnt, but I think I'd be a better clerk, with my education and its accomanying skills.. and that is why I joined as that trade.
I didn't say remuster would be NECESSARY, just preferable. You may well be good at Int - at the junior rank level the duties are amazingly similar to running a good CR. Int (at least when I retired in '04 - might have changed since) was a remuster-in ONLY trade though - so that kind of weakens your argument, don't you think? The point is not whether you can be a good clerk or not - the point is can you be a good SOLDIER. By being a Cbt Arms soldier FIRST (and I mean chronologically, not just attitudinally), you become a better CSS soldier later.
Sorry - but 22 years of RMS/Adm experience in Cbt Arms units tells me that I'm right. There are exceptions, naturally, but I always found that your average "retread" was worth two or three "direct entries". This (my experience AND my conclusions) applies to Army units only - I have no experience or opinion on how the Navy or Air Force might maximize the benefit they get from their personnel (although I strongly suspect that previous experience as a Bosun might accrue the same benefits to the Navy that previous experience as a Cbt Arms soldier give to the Army).
I think you'll find other Sr RMS Clks here on the boards who agree with my point of view - there are a variety of threads which touch on the issue.
Regardless my opinion of how the trade should be staffed - good luck to you - ALL service is valuable and important.
Roy