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28 Oct 06: Day of Protest Against the CF (& Canadian war crimes against an occupied people)

zipperhead_cop

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I came across this "nugget" of hippy tripe:

Saturday October 28, 5th anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan, has been declared a national Day of Protest by the Canadian Peace Alliance, Canadian Labour Congress, Canadian Islamic Congress and others calling for an immediate withdrawal of Canadian troops from Afghanistan and an end to the occupation.

It was announced today that Canada is stepping up its aggression by sending 450 more troops and a squadron of tanks to Afghanistan. Poland recently responded to NATO’s appeal for increased firepower by saying it would send 1,000 soldiers.

Canadian soldiers are being sent to Afghanistan as aggressors and occupiers. The tanks are said to be for shock action and to make killing from a long distance easier. Retired General Lewis McKenzie has been quoted as saying “It’s sort of nice to be able to stand back and turn to the tanker and say, "Take that house out’” rather than have soldiers themselves to inside to "clear out the enemy". This open talk of war crimes against an occupied people is not acceptable.

Not a few Canadian soldiers are being killed, some by U.S. forces. What noble purpose are these Canadians dying for? Meanwhile the recruitment campaign is being stepped up with new ads, relaxed fitness standards and the use of monetary inducements to get the youth to join the military.

This summer Canadians rose up to denounce Stephen Harper for calling the U.S.-Israeli war crimes against Lebanon and the Lebanese people “a measured response”. Let us do the same to show that “Canada’s war in Afghanistan” is not our war, no matter how much the Prime Minister, generals and a compliant media try to sell it that way, while in Parliament there is no rational discourse to reflect what Canadians think and want done in their name.

Let us go all out to make the October 28 Day of Protest a true reflection of Canadians’ sentiment against war and occupation and specifically for immediate withdrawal from U.S./NATO’s war of aggression in Afghanistan.

Everyone is welcome to attend this Tuesday’s meeting in the CAW Student Centre at 7 pm. to begin the work of organizing for a successful Windsor action with broad community participation.


Anyone else heard about October 28th?  I wish that these clowns would let someone who actually knows what is going on speak, although I realize that it would be an act in futility.
Rest assured, the board that it was posted on go a solid flaming from me, but it will likely be good info down the black hole of pacifist socialism.  :threat:
 
Hmmmm October 28th in Windor eh....

Sounds like a road trip....  ;)
 
http://www.cfra.com/red-fridays/index.asp?id=8

News Talk Radio 580 CFRA is proud to support the grassroots effort brought to Petawawa by the wives of two men serving in the Canadian Forces. The concept of wearing something red - whether a red shirt, jacket, cap, bandana or whatever - every Friday is meant to let the soldiers and their spouses and children know they are not alone.

We appreciate the sacrifices they are making on our behalf. We thank them for their service to our country and their fight for peace and justice wherever in the world they are sent.

With that in mind, CFRA invites you to attend a massive "Red Friday" public rally. This is a non-partisan, non-political rally in support of Canadian troops and their families:

Friday Sept 22,  2006
Parliament Hill,  Ottawa
12:00 Noon - 1:00  pm

Police officers, firefighters, city staff, politicians of all stripes, OC Transpo staff, paramedics, united way workers, private businesspeople and the general public will join a
colourful parade of veterans as they show respect and thanks in a very public way.

PLEASE SHARE THIS PAGE WITH EVERYONE ON YOUR CONTACT LIST. HELP SPREAD THE WORD, AND WEAR RED THIS FRIDAY!

For more information on supporting our troops, visit http://www.marriedtothecanadianforces.com

To order support our troops merchandise, visit: http://www.cfpsa.com

 
Oct 28, hmmm

sounds pretty close to cold snap season.

It will be interesting to see how many actually turn out.
 
zipperhead_cop said:
This summer Canadians rose up to denounce Stephen Harper for calling the U.S.-Israeli war crimes against Lebanon and the Lebanese people “a measured response”. Let us do the same to show that “Canada’s war in Afghanistan” is not our war, no matter how much the Prime Minister, generals and a compliant media try to sell it that way,

....and likely to the same effect.  ::)


"a compliant media" ....selling the war?  Pardon  ???
 
zipperhead_cop said:
This summer Canadians rose up to denounce Stephen Harper for calling the U.S.-Israeli war crimes against Lebanon and the Lebanese people “a measured response”. Let us do the same to show that “Canada’s war in Afghanistan” is not our war, no matter how much the Prime Minister, generals and a compliant media try to sell it that way,

Funny?  Wasn't it just last Fall that the majority of Canadians 'ELECTED' Stephen Harper and his party to become the new Government?
 
George Wallace said:
Funny?  Wasn't it just last Fall that the majority of Canadians 'ELECTED' Stephen Harper and his party to become the new Government?

Actually, as a minority government wouldn't that mean that a majority of Canadians voted for other parties?

Just being a jerk.  ;D
 
to show that “Canada’s war in Afghanistan” is not our war,
Keeping full in mind that I am still a civilian and have not *earned* the opportunity to be in the CF yet, but that statement is the part that really cranks me up every time i hear it.
NATO was 'invited' in. If you see any afghan political reps on TV, they are always talking about how canada / NATOas invited into the country to help! If someone off the street asks for help, it is a canadian thing to do to help out. Grrrr... this really gets me going. >:(
I cant beleive that people would be protesting (if they actually get off the couch) to stop people helping those who need it.
 
Here's a little something from the Canadian Peace Alliance web page on the 28 Oct 06 protest (event listing below text of statement):

http://www.acp-cpa.ca/en/Afghanistan.htm

Call for action on October 28, 2006
End Canada's occupation of Afghanistan

The Collectif Échec à la guerre, Canadian Peace Alliance the Canadian Labour Congress and the Canadian Islamic Congress are jointly calling for a pan-Canadian day of protest this October 28th 2006 to bring Canadian troops home from Afghanistan. On that day, people all across the country will unite to tell Stephen Harper that we are opposed to his wholehearted support for Canadian and US militarism.

This October marks the 5th anniversary of the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan, and the people of that country are still suffering from the ravages of war. Reconstruction in the country is at a standstill and the needs of the Afghan people are not being met. The rule of the new Afghan State, made up largely of drug running warlords, will not realize the democratic aspirations of the people there. In fact, according to Human Rights Watch reports, the human rights record of those warlords in recent years has not been better than the Taliban.

We are told that the purpose of this war is to root out terrorism and protect our societies, yet the heavy-handed approach of a military occupation trying to impose a US-friendly government on the Afghan people will force more Afghans to become part of the resistance movement. It will also make our societies more - not less - likely to see terrorist attacks. No discussion on military tactics in the House of Commons will change that reality. Indeed, violence is increasing with more attacks on both coalition troops and on Afghan civilians.

While individual Canadian soldiers may have gone to Afghanistan with the best of intentions, they are operating under the auspices of a US-led state building project that cares little for the needs of the Afghan people. US and Canadian interests rest with the massive $3.2 billion Trans Afghan Pipeline (TAP) project, which will bring oil from the Caspian region through southern Afghanistan (where Canada is stationed) and onto the ports of Pakistan. It has been no secret that the TAP has dominated US foreign policy towards Afghanistan for the last decade. Now Canadian oil and gas corporations have their own interests in the TAP.

Over the last decade, the role of the Canadian Armed Forces abroad has changed and Canadian foreign policy has become a replica of the US empire building rhetoric. The end result of this process is now plain to see with the role of our troops in Southern Afghanistan, with the enormous budget increases for war expenditures and "security", with the Bush-style speeches of Stephen Harper, and with the fear campaigns around "homegrown terrorism" to foster support for those nefarious changes. It is this very course that will get young Canadian soldiers killed, that will endanger our society and consume more and more of its resources for destruction and death in Afghanistan. We demand a freeze in defense and security budgets until an in-depth public discussion is held on those issues across Canada.

The mission in Afghanistan has already cost Canadians more than $4 billion. That money could have been used to fund human needs in Canada or abroad. Instead it is being used to kill civilians in Afghanistan and advance the interests of corporations.

On October 28th, stand up and be counted. Canadian Troops Out of Afghanistan Now!

For more information see: www.acp-cpa.ca ; http://www.echecalaguerre.org/ ; http://www.clc-ctc.ca/ ; http://www.canadianislamiccongress.com/

Event Listings (as of 12:26pm 19Sep06)
http://www.acp-cpa.ca/en/Oct28Events.htm

Charlotteown, PEI

PEACE WALK and RALLY
Troops out of Afghanistan

On October 28th the Island Peace Committee invites Islanders to a Peace Walk and Rally 12:30pm gather in Rochford Square Park, (across from Charlottetown Hotel) Peace Walk to the PEI Legislature where there will be a Peace Rally with speeches, music and petitions. For more information call 368-7337

Toronto, ON

March and Rally
Troops out of Afghanistan
Saturday October 28th
1 pm
US Consulate (360 University ave)

for more info see: www.nowar.ca
or e-mail stopthewar-at-sympatico.ca

Vancouver, BC

Bring the troops home!

Gather: 12 Noon in front of Canada Place (at Waterfront Station, foot of Howe St.)
March: 1p.m.
Rally: 2p.m. at Vancouver Art Gallery (Georgia and Howe)

For more info see. www.stopwar.ca

Victoria, BC

12 noon, centennial square speakers, music, followed by a march info: andrew barry 885-2210
 
I feel better knowing that they have the right to protest based on warped views of the world, as opposed to being killed by an oppressive government for having *any* views differing from theirs. Now if only these protesters understood that....
 
zipperhead_cop said:
I came across this "nugget" of hippy tripe:

Hippy tripe? Nah we're all vegetarian tree huggers.

zipperhead_cop said:
Canadian soldiers are being sent to Afghanistan as aggressors and occupiers.


As opposed to the passive and home grown friendly folks of Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

zipperhead_cop said:
What noble purpose are these Canadians dying for?


The ones that a lot of these folks(myself included) have protested and protest against - poverty, sexism, religious freedom, democracy. I'm not a fan of foreign tanks in the streets but there was a difference between the tanks in the old country in 1945 and 1968. Some people just see tanks and weapons not the reasons for them being somewhere at a specific time.
 
Yaaarr!

Tie their socks and haul 'em lubbers down the keel!
 
William Webb Ellis said:
zipper head, where did you find this information....

I spotted it on another forum.  My partner is the moderator on a family/homeschooling/breastfeeding website.  It has about 350 members, and of that 5 are men and all the men are married to one of the other members.  I thought it would be fun to go in and provide my "unique" perspective on life and things.  If you can believe it  :o there are a few hippies on that site.  I have had a ball shredding their rhetoric.  They aren't even sharp hippies like some of the ones that showed up for the Ex Charging Bison thread.  These are just misinformed housewives.  One of them even let her pacifist husband "guest post" on her account.  Oh baby, did he take a beating!  And since my regular partner is a mod, it is pretty hard for me to get banned (although you know it's coming).  Once nice thing, though.  When she posted that topic, there was a fairly immediate and strong reaction against her from other moms who believe in the mission and in the CF in general.  
Oh, I almost forgot this delightful peice!

The Truth about Canada in Afghanistan
http://www.acp-cpa.ca/en/TenTruthsAfghanistan.pdf

Scan through that waste of a PDF file and have some fun.  The hippies are taking it as gospel.
 
arrg, the talk'n tis the first to go when ye be overflowin with grog...

- "Mast Hugger Hannibal"

*edit for more piratish*
 
Gad!  Looking at this thread it is killing me seeing my screen name associated with the various quotes that have been highlighted. 
My feet!  Oh god!  Are those Bierkenstocks?!?  AAAAGGGGHHHH!!!!  :crybaby:
 
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