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Haitian leaders must all agree before Canada would lead a potential military intervention, Trudeau says

U.S. has suggested Canada could lead a multinational force in Haiti

Dylan Robertson · The Canadian Press · Posted: Nov 20, 2022 1:27 PM ET

A potential Canadian military intervention in Haiti can't happen unless all political parties in the troubled nation agree to it, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Sunday.

Speaking from Tunisia on the final day of the two-day Francophonie summit, Trudeau announced $16.5 million to help stabilize Haiti, where gangs are strangling access to fuel and critical supplies amid a worsening cholera outbreak.

About half the money is going toward humanitarian aid, and some of the rest is intended to help weed out corruption and prosecute gender-based violence.

But Haiti's government has asked for an international military intervention to combat gangs who have strangled access to fuel and critical supplies in the middle of the outbreak.

The United States wants Canada to lead any military intervention.

Trudeau said Sunday that Canada is working with CARICOM, the organization of Caribbean governments, along with "various actors in Haiti from all different political parties" to get a consensus on how the international community can help.

"It is not enough for Haiti's government to ask for it," he said. "There needs to be a consensus across political parties in Haiti before we can move forward on more significant steps."

He did not rule out eventually establishing a Canadian military mission on the ground in Haiti.

"Canada is very open to playing an important role, but we must have a Haitian consensus," Trudeau said in French.

New sanctions on prominent former officials
A Global Affairs Canada assessment team sent to Haiti to establish some understanding of what is happening and what could help has already returned and provided a report at meetings Trudeau said he attended.

He said the response is complicated because many "political elites" and "oligarchs" in Haiti have used the country's humanitarian crises "to enrich themselves on the backs of the Haitian people."

"So that is why our approach now is not about doing what one political party or the government wants," Trudeau said. "It's calling for a level of consensus and coherence from all actors in Haiti to call for solutions that we can actually get behind and lead on as an international community."

On Saturday Canada expanded its economic sanctions freezing the Canadian assets of Haitian political elites to now include former president Michel Martelly and former prime ministers Laurent Lamothe and Jean-Henry Ceant.

Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly accused the trio of helping gangs undermine Haiti's current government and called on international partners to follow Canada's lead.

"Our goal is to make sure that these people that are profiting from the violence, that are part of a corrupted system, are facing accountability," she said.

Haitian Foreign Affairs Minister Jean Victor Geneus said the new sanctions put real consequences on those causing a "nightmare" in his country.

"These sanctions will have a dissuasive impact," he said in French, while seated between Trudeau and Joly.

Geneus said gangs are raping women and girls, preventing children from attending school and not letting sick people through roadblocks when they seek medical treatment. That means refugees are leaving for neighbouring islands.

"If the necessary conditions for safety are not re-established in a fast and urgent manner, a humanitarian catastrophe is possible in Haiti," he said in French.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-haiti-intervention-sanctions-1.6658254
 
Bomb them.

They don't have nukes.
Or not actually. Who cares.

Democracy-in-a-box is not a thing. How many times have we tried. It doesn't work. If they're not ready for it, then let them have a dictatorship for a while and slowly build institutions like every other civilization.

Democracy is the historic exception to human governance, not the rule.


 
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Or not actually. Who cares.

Democracy-in-a-box is not a thing. How many times have we tried. It doesn't work. If they're not ready for it, then let them have a dictatorship for a while and slowly build institutions like every other civilization.

Democracy is the historic exception to human governance, not the rule.


Kind of reminds me of the one about two cannibals having dinner:

Cannibal #1: “Wow, your wife makes good soup.”
Cannibal #2: “Yes, she does.”
Cannibal #1: “So where is your wife?”
 
Or not actually. Who cares.

Democracy-in-a-box is not a thing. How many times have we tried. It doesn't work. If they're not ready for it, then let them have a dictatorship for a while and slowly build institutions like every other civilization.

Democracy is the historic exception to human governance, not the rule.



It's a cultural thing. Part of the vibrant local tradition that was interrupted by the arrival of the colonists.
 
Here's the deal:

It doesn't matter who is the PM of Haiti as others will try to topple them, plus 90% of Haitians are dirt poor and don't trust anyone. And can you blame them? I bet the spirit of Papa Doc is still present in that poor nation. It has not had a kind history.
 
80% of the capital is now held by criminal gangs. An aggressive house cleaning is in order....but what do you do after that? Cosy up to the least "bad" actor? Not a recipe for success.

Its been tried - in Vietnam, Afghanistan and I am sure we could go on and on
Haiti over and over af nauseum!
 
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