- Reaction score
- 85
- Points
- 580
As hopefully a soon-to-be CIC officer but also as a former reserve infantry officer, this OCdt Kenderesi person really angers me with his actions and his hodge-podge of outdated and current kit, half of which he'd not be entitled to even if it were current an Canadian. The man is a complete disgrace in the "stolen valour" variety and makes CAF, and specifically CIC look bad regardless of what his message was. I happen to not be in favour of lockdowns an think there were other ways of dealing with this. I am also chary of injections that have been rushed to market in a timeline that just a few months ago MSM was saying would be dangerously fast (just two examples of what I'm talking about: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/us/c...th/eua-coronavirus-vaccine-history/index.html).
That said, this guy's actions are indefensible. They also make those of us who have questions look like crazy tinfoil hat conspiracy people because we naturally get lumped-in with this guy. So when I saw that he was charged my initial reaction was "good, I hope they throw the book at him." After cooling off for a few days and trying to look at it more objectively, I think that his career in the CAF is clearly done as it should be. I am wondering about the mutiny charge though ... seems a bit like taking out a mosquito with a bazooka, but looking at the law ...
Had a look at the NDA for the legal definition of "mutiny". The term appears to be a bit broader than the dictionary definition, given that mere "insubordination" versus the open rebellion or attempted overthrow of authority in the dictionary definition:
"mutiny means collective insubordination or a combination of two or more persons in the resistance of lawful authority in any of Her Majesty’s Forces or in any forces cooperating therewith; (mutinerie)"
I'd be interested to hear from those with experience/knowledge in military law on what the chances are of this charge sticking. I don't know the ins-and-outs of proving mens rea for this (and it sounds like there may not be a lot of case law precedents), but it seems to me that -- as angry as this idiot's actions make me -- mutiny is a rather heavy charge for a vague speech encouraging military to not administer vaccines IF it comes to pass that they are ordered to.
Conduct unbecoming seems absolutely fitting to me.
That said, this guy's actions are indefensible. They also make those of us who have questions look like crazy tinfoil hat conspiracy people because we naturally get lumped-in with this guy. So when I saw that he was charged my initial reaction was "good, I hope they throw the book at him." After cooling off for a few days and trying to look at it more objectively, I think that his career in the CAF is clearly done as it should be. I am wondering about the mutiny charge though ... seems a bit like taking out a mosquito with a bazooka, but looking at the law ...
UPDATE. I cannot link the article due to the officer, but the Ottawa Citizen reports that numbnuts has been charged with a mutiny related offence; 81(b) NDA as far as I can tell.
81 Every person who
(b) endeavours to persuade any person to join in a mutiny,
is guilty of an offence and on conviction is liable to imprisonment for life or to less punishment.
Had a look at the NDA for the legal definition of "mutiny". The term appears to be a bit broader than the dictionary definition, given that mere "insubordination" versus the open rebellion or attempted overthrow of authority in the dictionary definition:
"mutiny means collective insubordination or a combination of two or more persons in the resistance of lawful authority in any of Her Majesty’s Forces or in any forces cooperating therewith; (mutinerie)"
I'd be interested to hear from those with experience/knowledge in military law on what the chances are of this charge sticking. I don't know the ins-and-outs of proving mens rea for this (and it sounds like there may not be a lot of case law precedents), but it seems to me that -- as angry as this idiot's actions make me -- mutiny is a rather heavy charge for a vague speech encouraging military to not administer vaccines IF it comes to pass that they are ordered to.
Conduct unbecoming seems absolutely fitting to me.