Before I go on I'd like to note that I was making an observation. Urination contests tend to be wasted time, and often niether side knows if they're p*ssing for accuracy or distance.
In any case, to your point: my experience is different, though you may be right about more recent 1st gen immigrants (the ones I know tend to be older, and immigrated some years ago). That being said, on a debating point - if you voice an opinion and I disagree, it would traditionally be up to you to prove it, not up to me to prove you wrong.
My intent is not to be politically correct, though it probably appears that way. IMO voicing an opinion on admitted limited knowledge is a mistake - one that we've seen often on discussion groups. You know quite well the typical reaction to "newbies" and "wannabes" on these very boards when they say things on subject they know little about.
I'm not saying you can't have opinions (like I could stop you).
Anyway, that's all I'll say on this as the thread sems to be dying anyway.
Cheers,
Acorn