Replacing The Army's Heavy Equipment

[suffolkowner]

the article describes the plan to replace the army's heavy equipment over 18 different classes but I didn't see the total number of equipment. Be nice to have a better breakdown of whats involved. How much use would medium to large equipment even get and would it not be better to subcontract that work out?

I would rate Caterpillar and John Deere a tie with Komatsu quite a bit behind in my opinion, depending on the type of equipment needed/used. Not sure who else could really match up

https://canadianarmytoday.com/heavy-load-replacing-the-armys-bulldozers-and-backhoes/

EDIT: fixed the capitalization in title.

 

[dapaterson]

the article describes the plan to replace the army's heavy equipment over 18 different classes but I didn't see the total number of equipment. Be nice to have a better breakdown of whats involved. How much use would medium to large equipment even get and would it not be better to subcontract that work out?

I would rate Caterpillar and John Deere a tie with Komatsu quite a bit behind in my opinion, depending on the type of equipment needed/used. Not sure who else could really match up

https://canadianarmytoday.com/heavy-load-replacing-the-armys-bulldozers-and-backhoes/

Imagery is misleading.  This is for military equipment - capable of being armoured and intended as deployable assets potentially into harm's way.  Not for tootling around the base pouring gravel around a culvert.

 

[suffolkowner]

ahh! makes sense 18 classes of equipment still seems like a lot but interesting. It shouldn't be a hard procurement though, hopefully an easy win for the army

 

[MilEME09]

Imagery is misleading.  This is for military equipment - capable of being armoured and intended as deployable assets potentially into harm's way.  Not for tootling around the base pouring gravel around a culvert.

Its a pretty comprehensive program, its not just heavy engineering equipment, its airfield equipment,  etc...  some of this program is about replacement of some items used on bases but mostly its common heavy equipment the CAF needs in the field. More details on ACIMS for those with DWAN acces, the replacement of most of our base maintenance type heavy equipment is included in the LVM project.

 

[Rifleman62]

Here is an idea to replace Cdn Army's equip. High jack a train.

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[Alco]

Does anyone have any updates on what (if anything) has been chosen?

 

[PrairieFella]

New recovery vehicle contract announced.

Government of Canada announces contracts for recovery vehicles to support the Canadian Armed Forces - Canada.ca

The Government of Canada is committed to supporting members of our Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) by ensuring Canada has a robust military that can defend Canada abroad and protect Canadians.

www.canada.ca

 

[Furniture]

I'm assuming this is the version we are buying. It seems like an impressive truck, even if we are likely buying too few.

 

[McG]

New recovery vehicle contract announced.

Government of Canada announces contracts for recovery vehicles to support the Canadian Armed Forces - Canada.ca

The Government of Canada is committed to supporting members of our Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) by ensuring Canada has a robust military that can defend Canada abroad and protect Canadians.

www.canada.ca

Wrong thread. You are going to excite and then disappoint everyone wanting to know when new bulldozers are coming.

 

[dapaterson]

Wrong thread. You are going to excite and then disappoint everyone wanting to know when new bulldozers are coming.

If I could turn back time...

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

If I could find a way ...

 

[suffolkowner]

nice. Anything new is good but is Rheinmetall making a better product for recovery than one of the other heavy trucks we bought?
So far we have
International
Volvo/Mack
MB
Rheinmetall

 

[FJAG]

I'm assuming this is the version we are buying. It seems like an impressive truck, even if we are likely buying too few.

It's a bit nip and tuck.

For comparison, a US Stryker brigade combat team has 23 M984 heavy wreckers. An American armored brigade combat team has 17 but also 31 M88 ARVs. An IBCT has 10 M984s.

85 ERCs (together with 11 ARVs for one armoured regiment) should be quite sufficient for 3 CMBGs with 2 mech and 1 light bn with enough spares for other purposes including the eFP. There's not much slack though and no room for expansion.

 

[suffolkowner]

It's a bit nip and tuck.

For comparison, a US Stryker brigade combat team has 23 M984 heavy wreckers. An American armored brigade combat team has 17 but also 31 M88 ARVs. An IBCT has 10 M984s.

85 ERCs (together with 11 ARVs for one armoured regiment) should be quite sufficient for 3 CMBGs with 2 mech and 1 light bn with enough spares for other purposes including the eFP. There's not much slack though and no room for expansion.

back to Poulter to see how the plan is going

https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2012/tactical/poulter.pdf

 

[FJAG]

back to Poulter to see how the plan is going

https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2012/tactical/poulter.pdf

Looks like "on-time; on target"

 

[suffolkowner]

Looks like "on-time; on target"

pg 17

AHSVS Wrecker = 7
HLVW Wrecker = 123
HLVW Tractor with 5th wheel towing device = 46

Future Wrecker = 104 Recommend procuring thru ERC instead of LVM

 

[FJAG]

The denoted sarcasm

Slide 17 also indicated potential IOC in 2018.