If approved, it will account for more than a third of the $27.1 million envelope the federal government set aside for communities to identify burial sites.
Chief Mark Hill said it's a substantial, but necessary request to conduct a full investigation.
"It's really for justice," Chief Mark Hill told CBC News.
Money just a start- Hill said the $10 million would be an initial start and he isn't sure it's enough.
Hill said he would've liked to have seen the money yesterday.
I'll be totally honest here. I didn't learn a thing about residential schools, at all, during my time in elementary, Jr. High, or Sr. High school. And even during my college/uni years (have a degree in Criminal Sciences) the topic of Residential Schools never came up. The challenges of policing on reserves came up, but nothing was discussed about residential schools.Complicated by the fact that the kids that died there came from several different nations, so you would have to get them to come to a consensus as well. I am surprised this is all a big surprise to everyone. The facts were well known and a plan should been in place as to how to deal with this issue, but then INAC and this government is not the best at forward planning, so I shouldn't be surprised....
You're far from alone, including a lot of other people who are otherwise pretty well & broadly informed - I hear there's even still a few people in government who were surprised after the 215 discovery.I'll be totally honest here. I didn't learn a thing about residential schools, at all, during my time in elementary, Jr. High, or Sr. High school. And even during my college/uni years (have a degree in Criminal Sciences) the topic of Residential Schools never came up.
Googling "nutrition experiment residential school" opens a specific chapter of that book that's pretty sad, tooIt wasn't until my neighbour and I stayed up for hours the other night googling everything we could about residential schools ...
Our teachers did always tell us how much better we were for 'not having slaves like in the US'.
Police forensic resources are stretched this as is. Depending on how fully any eventual investigation wants to go into exploring forensics and pathology, this could be an immense task...I believe there is a casualty identification coordinator at DND that deals with that sort of thing, like when WW1 remains are found and need identification. I’m not sure if that would be the more appropriate asset to be used or if other civilian government services would be better placed. I’m think maybe the RCMP forensics lab maybe. Things like identifying causes of death, DNA matching to families etc. It also really depends on whether the community even wants this done. I think it was in Manitoba where they found 80 in a mass grave and the community opted to just let them all Rest In Peace. The very first step is to confirm what the wishes of the indegenous communities would be. I suspect we’ll see more of these but my feeling is it should be on a community by community basis.
IIRC orphans and unwanted children were shipped here from Britain in the late 1800s? Yes we had slaves.Except that they were wrong: We did have slavery and slaves in Canada, just not in large numbers and for farm work. The rich families of Montreal, Quebec and Halifax, amongst others, had slaves for domestic work until slavery was abolished in England (and by ricochet, in the British Empire).
Now that I'm older, and the internet exists, and Google makes researching things a lot easier than it was back when I was in school (I remember when Caller ID first came out, and Encarta CD Rom was mind blowing) - I've spent a bit of time every single day, for the past several years, taking the time to learn about a variety of things that I was very much misinformed about when I was young.Except that they were wrong: We did have slavery and slaves in Canada, just not in large numbers and for farm work. The rich families of Montreal, Quebec and Halifax, amongst others, had slaves for domestic work until slavery was abolished in England (and by ricochet, in the British Empire).
As did the First Nations with Slave raidsIIRC orphans and unwanted children were shipped here from Britain in the late 1800s? Yes we had slaves.
Yeah, that's not one of the things they teach in schools anymore, that and the cannibal practices of some First Nations, Joseph Brant seems to have survived cancel culture so far,As did the First Nations with Slave raids
John R. Jewitt - Wikipedia
Raiders from the sea
Along one of the world’s greatest salmon rivers, archaeologists and First Nations elders discover clues to a turbulent pastwww.canadiangeographic.ca
To an extent yes. there is a big distinction between a slave society, which the US (Rome is a good example of a slave society) at the time was and society with slaves, like Great Britain and others.Except that they were wrong: We did have slavery and slaves in Canada, just not in large numbers and for farm work. The rich families of Montreal, Quebec and Halifax, amongst others, had slaves for domestic work until slavery was abolished in England (and by ricochet, in the British Empire).
I've tried to google this a few different ways, but I don't think I'm understanding this in a concrete enough way. Mind a quick explanation?To an extent yes. there is a big distinction between a slave society, which the US (Rome is a good example of a slave society) at the time was and society with slaves, like Great Britain and others.
Probably slaves as a foundation of major sectors of the economy - e.g., an essential part of the labour force - versus being a domestic luxury for the rich. There’s a reason the southern states went all traitory and started/lost a war over slavery. They depended economically on the total subjugation of other human beings. I don’t believe slavery in Canada was ever close to that widespread. We didn’t have the same sort of plantation agriculture.I've tried to google this a few different ways, but I don't think I'm understanding this in a concrete enough way. Mind a quick explanation?
I'm also not sure where you're going with the "Slave Society" vs "Society with Slaves" distinction. You describe Great Britain as a "Society with Slaves" vs a "Slave Society" like Rome or the US, and while you're correct that there were not a great number of slaves held in the British Isles themselves the British economy was indeed very much dependent on the slave labour in its colonies that provided the foundation for its trade economy.To an extent yes. there is a big distinction between a slave society, which the US (Rome is a good example of a slave society) at the time was and society with slaves, like Great Britain and others.
I think this is also a somewhat false narrative we've been fed to make ourselves feel better (and superior) about our history with regard to slavery. That our slaves were merely basically domestic servants in the homes of the wealthy. In fact, slaves were extensively owned at all levels of society and performed all types of labour (including farm work) and faced many of the same harsh treatments faced by slaves south of the border, including beatings, rape and execution. (Black Enslavement in Canada | The Canadian Encyclopedia.)Except that they were wrong: We did have slavery and slaves in Canada, just not in large numbers and for farm work. The rich families of Montreal, Quebec and Halifax, amongst others, had slaves for domestic work until slavery was abolished in England (and by ricochet, in the British Empire).
Exactly. Rome and a large part of the US relied on slaves to keep their economy going and in certain ways as a way to maintain leisurely existence. Rome and the US though, having a big difference in that slavery wasn’t race based in Rome. But that is another interesting conversation.Probably slaves as a foundation of major sectors of the economy - e.g., an essential part of the labour force - versus being a domestic luxury for the rich. There’s a reason the southern states went all traitory and started/lost a war over slavery. They depended economically on the total subjugation of other human beings. I don’t believe slavery in Canada was ever close to that widespread. We didn’t have the same sort of plantation agriculture.