Nursing officer enrollment/clinical placements

[eggert]

Seriously?    :

^ it  would, i know i was talking to a recruiter and he said they are only taking girl nurses right now because there is too many male nurses in the forces and some of them will get c-strained

 

[medicineman]

c-strained?

MM

 

[Cansky]

it would depend on things like : how much alcohol you consume, if you do any drugs, what gender you are, how good your marks are, and if there are any positions open. i know there is a few civilians working at my base hospital but they are trying to get rid of them completely with the new budget,

Advice Mr Eggert.  Don't comment on things you know nothing about.

We don't have military hospitals only medical clinics and within these are CDU's or care delivery units.  The CDU's were designed to employee civilian medical personnel so that when military medical personnel are deployed there is still someone left to treat the rear party pers.  They will not be getting rid of the civilian medical staff as most of the positions are built into the manning slate.

We don't have to many male nurses in fact we have to many women nurse and this won't change anytime soon.  If you fit the employment requirements as per any trade in the CF you will get employed.

To the OP

Unfortunately if you are looking at coming to the CF clinic as a civilian nurse or military nurse your role is primarily administrative.  You will gain very little nursing skills to consolidate your knowledge.  Although I love being in medicine in the military (Physician Assistant) a big chunk of our day to day even as a PA, or Nurse (Mil or civi) is administrative. 

Hope that helps

 

[eggert]

C STRAINED means being an officer then getting put back to ncm because you are bad / cant do your job properly.

and I can't believe how childish people are on this site, reporting my post when i thought that was the truth. I know the forces are only hiring some trades gender specific- and i thought nurse was one of them

best thing to do is talk to a  recruiter, but im sure what gender you are will have a large impact. things also like your marks, high school  marks, volunteer work and if you are skinny or not will come into play

best of luck though

 

[RubberTree]

Eggert, you are obviously way out of your lane here. Posting things that you think are the truth doesn't make it so. You are, deliberately or not, misleading others who come to this site for information.
Please, take Kirsten's advice and stop posting random, incorrect information on topics you know nothing about.

 

[PMedMoe]

C STRAINED means being an officer then getting put back to ncm because you are bad / cant do your job properly.

I'm going to guess that you mean "Cease training" or "cease trained" which is not what you have described here.  :

Not to mention, if one enrolled as an Officer, how can one be "put back" to NCM? 

Nothing childish about people wanting correct information.

And could you please start using proper capitalization, etc as per the site guidelines?

 

[medicineman]

C STRAINED means being an officer then getting put back to ncm because you are bad / cant do your job properly.

I just checked back right now and not really wanting to jump on the dog pile, but...not to  burst your bubble, but whoever told you that should be sharing the dope they're smoking with you.  BTW, in order to be put back to NCM from officer, you actually have to be an NCM to start. 

I think you'll find that they were tallking about nursing officers in generally being overborne and might be on the chopping block...in this day and age, it is actually illegal to have gender caps on gender non-specific occupations.

:2c:

MM

 

[eggert]

ok i kno officers who have failed they're training and have been offered jobs such as: Cook, Supply, RMC clerk ..its not very unordinary to happen.

kristen: Ok this is a public website everyone has there own opinion i was just trying to help so stop trying to get all gangster/hardcore on me its not the end of the world that i was in correct on one little thing.

Best of luck to your nursing situation i hope all goes well, if i were you i would just put a application in for Med tech, sar tech, physio or just try to get on an deployment somewhere and you will be doing a lot of nursing things

eggert

 

[George Wallace]

WOW!


Such a flagrant abuse of the English language.  You really murdered it.

 

[PMedMoe]

:facepalm:

Where's that toilet flushing emoticon? 

 

[TwoTonShackle]

....and back to the OP's question.

If you complete your nursing studies and join as a nurse prior to your clinical phase you would most like join as a SLt and be placed on the BTL.  You would do your 3 clinical placements in civilian hospitals as the CF does not have the same sort of facilities.  Upon completion of your clinical placements, you would then go to Borden for a 2 month Basic Nursing Officer's course.  You would then be able to be posted.

As what was mentioned before, Nursing Officer is more of a hospital administrator then clinical nurse.  During your clinical phases it will normally be you and your mentor with 6+ patients whereas in a CF hospital if someone is staying over night it can be 3+ nurses to the one patient.  I have been told that nursing officers are encouraged to "moonlight shifts" in order to keep up their skills and hours.

Best of luck,

 

[PMedMoe]

....and back to the OP's question.

The OP was asking about CF clinical placements as a civilian nursing student.  And yes, some places do have those.  I know Kingston did when I was there (e.g. student nurses to assist the Immunization Nurse).

 

[SentryMAn]

First Step: Application and the entire process
Second step: Getting through Basic Military Officer Training in Saint Jean, Que.
Some steps after you will spend time in Borden doing trade specific training.

if you complete your Degree in Nursing, do not take Eggert's advice on anything posted in here.  I know NOTHING about the nursing trade beyond the first two steps above and still know 100% more then what he has posted.

We had one nurse on our BMOQ and they were suggested to be out platoon medic, received the medical bag to carry with them at all times.  Worked really well and they were a fantastically qualified nurse. 

I Love the idea of being a nurse, but the "changing adult diapers" and geriatric care made me about face quickly.

 

[PMedMoe]

For those who forgot the original question (highlights mine):

Hi, I'm currently a BSc Nursing student in Toronto (not ROTP) graduating in summer 2014 and hope to serve with CF afterwards for at least a few years.

For my consolidation semester I'm hoping to complete my clinical placement in a CF-affiliated facility, I'm just curious is there anything like that open to civilians? It doesn't even necessarily have to involve acute care or providing direct care to service members (although that would be a great learning experience I figure that's out of the question). My main focus is to develop a basic understanding about challenges that are specific to military nurses/medical professionals, and to gain some basic clinical skills that would prepare me to be an effective military nurse in the future.

But yes, don't take eggert's advice.  :nod:

 

[Loachman]

Ok this is a public website

No, it is not.

It is a privately-owned website and you are a guest here.

everyone has there own opinion

Firstly, it's "their own opinion", and, secondly, there's a huge difference between an informed opinion, ie one based upon solid knowledge and experience and sufficient brain power to evaluate that and express conclusions competently, and mindless blatherings.

i was just trying to help

Your motivation is commendable. It will be more welcome, however, when you have a clue about what you are typing. Nothing that you said was in anyway helpful.

We expect certain things from posters here.

We expect them to stay within their lanes.

We expect quality posts.

We expect clear communication. That includes proper spelling, capitalization, punctuation, and grammar.

You have not, so far, displayed any suitability for commissioned rank here.

I am glad that you were not selected for any of your first three choices. At least, as a TDO, if you succeed (and I am not rooting for you), you can do no real harm.

 

[Cansky]

ok i kno officers who have failed they're training and have been offered jobs such as: Cook, Supply, RMC clerk ..its not very unordinary to happen.

kristen: Ok this is a public website everyone has there own opinion i was just trying to help so stop trying to get all gangster/hardcore on me its not the end of the world that i was in correct on one little thing.

Best of luck to your nursing situation i hope all goes well, if i were you i would just put a application in for Med tech, sar tech, physio or just try to get on an deployment somewhere and you will be doing a lot of nursing things

eggert

Since you directed a comment at me.  You are not yet in the CF as per your posts so far.  I have 26 years in the CF. I am not getting hardcore one you but giving a newbie to this site and to a soon to be recruit some friendly advice. You might want to suck back and reload and learn a few things from those if us who have been around the CF and this website a lot longer than you.  Since I am in medicine and currently work with nurses and for nurses I have a much better and more accurate view of where things are within this topic.  Again stay in your lanes as most of us here do.

Best of luck in recruit school.

Kirsten

 

[Patchez9295]

Thanks for the clarification everybody, I'll definitely look into calling up all the Ontario CFHS med centres 

And if any medical service members have any other advice that would be great. I've been conducting a little bit of research on my own and just have so many questions both about technical/clinical and moral dilemmas that are prevalent in your duties but I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask.

 

[medicineman]

ok i kno officers who have failed they're training and have been offered jobs such as: Cook, Supply, RMC clerk ..its not very unordinary to happen.

Best of luck to your nursing situation i hope all goes well, if i were you i would just put a application in for Med tech, sar tech, physio or just try to get on an deployment somewhere and you will be doing a lot of nursing things

I've known actual people in the service that had to cease training as officers - and had to re-enrol before being able to an NCM.  Process isn't as easy as you make it out to be.

Since you apparently have no idea what you're talking about trade wise, I'd suggest you tape your fingies together or put on some mittens and stop typing advice about things you haven't a schmick of knowledge of.

MM

 

[FutureNursingOfficer]

Hey everyone,

I'm new here and for a long time I was contemplating joining the reserves. That turned into thinking more and more about joining the forces full-time and utilizing their paid training option to do a complete career switch.

I'm currently 31 and work in marketing and to say I'm dissatisfied with my career path would be an understatement. I always thought if there was a "reset button" on my life, I would have gone to school for nursing.

I've stubbornly tried to "tough it out" in my current career, justifying that most people don't "love" their jobs, but I just can't do it anymore. I want to do something I am proud of and I cannot think of anything more challenging and rewarding than with the Canadian Armed Forces.

I've enrolled in distance learning courses to get the high school credits I need (My high school diploma is now useless for University as so much time has passed) and I am hoping to get the needed credits and grades to get unconditional acceptance into a Nursing Degree program as required by the Canadian Forces early next year.

How long does the application process usually take? I am thinking it's a bit of a time crunch if I apply to a nursing program by Feb 1, 2016 for the course to start in September 2016. I probably will not hear back if I am accepted into the program by mid- late March (though this can be way off as I cannot remember how long it took for me to get my college acceptance letters when I was still in high school.) So if I am correct, my application cannot start until nearly April.

Now, I don't have any history that I can think off that could delay my application...I've never so much VISITED overseas, let alone live there, I have no criminal record to speak of at all, and my credit is pretty good. I don't even so much as have a traffic ticket.

Your insight and experiences are greatly appreciated!

J

I'm physically fit and currently constantly improving in that department as well

 

[mariomike]

How long does the application process usually take?

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