Military Occupation Groups

[McG]

Can anyone point me in the direction of a comprehensive list of the various military occupation groups.  Not a list of occupations, but rather those formal groups which designate a collective of occupations (ie: ATR, CBTA, MILE, etc).

I initially thought this would be an easy question but a DWAN search turns up nothing helpful, I've run out of SMEs to ask at the unit, and even here at Army.ca I cannot find an answer.  :-\

 

[Gunner98]

MCG,

I think you may find what you are looking for in this document:
http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/pd/pi-ip/doc/02-08-eng.pdf

Check chart at page 9/14

 

[McG]

Note quite.  While it does show MILE, it does not get into any of the other groups that I am aware of.  There is no mention of CBTA.  I know of one (don't remember the name) which is any-engineer (includes Engr, Const Engr, EME, AERE, MARE, CELE, etc).  The occupation groups typically appear in establishments to indicate where a position can be filled by more than one occupation.

 

[gcclarke]

That PDF referrenced "CFAO 2-10 Personnel Branches Within the Canadian Forces". Could that be what you're looking for?

Also, darn you CFAOs for not conforming to the common look and feel and thus not being online!

Oh wait, sorry. Misplaced anger.

Darn you Treasury Board!

 

[Gunner98]

Last try: pages 24-26/29 of pubs.drdc.gc.ca/PDFS/unc06/p519201.pdf

 

[McG]

Last try: pages 24-26/29 of pubs.drdc.gc.ca/PDFS/unc06/p519201.pdf

Still not quite.  Not only does this list pre-date the current MOSID structure (which is relevant because the groups I'm looking for also have MOSID like numeral designators), but occupations only appear in one group where the occupations may appear in more than one group for what I am looking for.

 

[McG]

Okay, here are a few examples of MOS Groups:

CBTA 90001
ENGR FD OPS 90018
ENG GEN 90030
ENG MIL 90033
INFRA TECH 90006
ENG AIR 90036
C S TECH SEA 90020
C&E IS TECH 90021

In CFTPO, you can pull up a shopping list of these but there is no explination of which occupations are contained within each specific group.

 

[gcclarke]

MCG, I found the following on the help page for the CFTPO sfotware, at clsapp.mil.ca/cls_mil_ca/cftpo/index.html (DWAN only). It seems like this is what you're looking for. To find the xls file I took this from, go from that page, to "Introduction", to "Help Topics / Table of Contents", to "Glossary,Definitions & Version 5 manual" (sic), to "MOC List".


As for what exactly these numbers mean, as some of my University texts put it, I'll leave that as an exercise up to the reader. Most of them are MOCs, some are even more outdated MOC groups.

For example, my own trade's MOC was 87, but years before that, us and the Marine Systems Engineers (And the Naval Architects for that matter) were all sub-MOCs of the MARE MOC 44, which shows up in both the ENGG and SEA GEN categories.

OFFICERS  
MOC DESCRIPTION  
01 ANY GSO - LESS 49, 51, 55, 56, 58, 61, 62, 67, 72, 74, 75  
02 CBTA - 21, 22, 23, 24  
03 AOPS - 31, 32  
04 AIRG - 31, 32, 33, 65  
05 ENGG - 24, 41, 42, 43, 44, 46  
06 ARMS - 21, 22, 23, 24, 42  
07 OPSG - 21, 22, 23, 24, 31, 32, 72  
08 AIR DEF - 31, 32, 33, 42, 65  
09 CBT SVC SP - 43, 69  
10 L TECH SVC - 24, 43, 69  
11 LOG ADM - 68, 69  
12 SEA GEN - 44, 71  
13 MILE - 24, 46  
14 AIRENG - 41, 46  
15 AIRT - 41, 42, 46, 69  
 
 
NCMs  
MOC DESCRIPTION  
971 ATR  
972 CBTA - 011, 021, 022, 031, 041, 042  
973 SEA GEN - 065, 181, 275, 276, 277, 278, 283, 284, 285, 286, 312, 313, 314, 321, 331, 332, 341, 342, 862  
974 CBTOPSEA - 275, 276, 277, 278  
975 MSTECSEA - 312, 313, 314, 321, 331, 332  
976 AIR TECH - 514, 526, 565  
977 INFRA TECH - 041, 042 + 600 SERIES  
978 L MAINT - 400 SERIES  
979 ELEC TECH - 225, 226, 227, 434, 526  
980 ARMS - 011, 021, 022, 031, 041, 042, 052, 211  
981 COM S OPS - 211, 212, 291  
982 ADM - 836, 933  
983 MED - 700 SERIES  
986 SECUR INT - 111, 811  
987 AIRG - 081, 091, 121, 131, 168, 514, 526, 565  
988 AOPS - 081, 091, 121, 131, 168  
989 AIR ELEC SYS TECH  
990 ENGR FD OPS  - 041, 042  
991 COMM SUPVR - 211, 212  
992 CSTECSEA - 065, 283, 284, 285, 286  
993 C&E IS TECH -225,226,227

 

[McG]

We're getting closer.  Playing around with MOS Groups in CFTPO shows that the current groups don't precisely match with the old MOC Groups.  So, the fact that many of the refenced MOCs don't exist as MOSID today asside, this list still leaves some ambiguity as to what is in the current MOS Groups.

 

[McG]

Found!  It is backward to what I was looking for (shows a list of occupations and all the groups into which each falls) but meets my needs.

On DWAN: http://dhrim04.desc.mil.ca/engraph/custom_e.asp
It is the "Occupation Group Report" link.