Goto school for Aviation to get into the States

[Warvstar]

Im putting this in Radio Chatter so I dont have to clutter up the Forein Militaries forum.
Well im thinking about going to school for 2 years in the Aviation program. You think I would be able to get a job in the United States with that diploma?
I have reasons for wanting to go there, its not the whole Superior Army thing.

 

[I_Drive_Planes]

Are you looking to get into the US military or civillian aviation?  If it is civillian then you would be far better off checking out some aviation specific forums, such as www.avcanada.ca or www.pprune.org. 

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[DEVES]

Hi there,
The 2 year aviation diploma that flight schools and Collages have are good but it probably wont get you into the States. Are you a American Citizen?
I good route to go would to go get your Private, Commercial, licenses and work as a Flight instructor and get some hours and some time in different aircraft. Getting your Multi engine rating, Instrument etc are good. I have my Private Pilots and I know alot of guys that want to fly in the states. You Can but it will take you awhile. Experience is the key then get in to a Company that flys charters or just carriers that fly into the States.

I don't know if that helps,
Just taking the course wont get you flying what you want to fly, and where you want to fly, but after a few years of dedication you might be able to travel alot of different places.

Cheers.

 

[DEVES]

Sorry and as for the United States Air Force,

You have to be an American or an aboriginal and just having a aviation diploma won't mean they will take you over someone else. Almost like our recruiting process I believe. They like to see it but there going to teach you to fly again anyways! You should look into there website and see what they say.

Also writing them a email will help. They do reply to Canadians interested in joining. They need to make there Quotas.I would write them and see what they say if your looking into the USAF.

 

[Warvstar]

What I meant is Immigrate from Canada to the United States looking for sponship from a civilian employer. And then I can join the United States Armed Forces.

 

[DEVES]

You probably could be sponsored by an employer and then get your green card. I don't see what the problem would be. You just have to be American to join the USAF and thats it. Along with all of there other requirement but I don't know them.

Thats a long road to take just to be in  the USAF. By the time you do it you could probably be a Captain or Major in the RCAF. Well thats what you have to decide. Anyways Good luck there Dude.

 

[McG]

Thats a long road to take just to be in   the USAF. By the time you do it you could probably be a Captain or Major in the RCAF.

There is no RCAF.  You are clearly not sufficiently well informed on the Canadian military to make any comparisons to time required for promotion.

Stay in your lane.

 

[DEVES]

WE dont have a Royal Canadian Airforce (RCAF)?

By the time someone was to get the hours and get a decent job flying for a company that could sponcer them to become a American citizen. They could have probably gotten into the Canadian Airforce and probably made it the ranks.
As Candians in the Airforce are Officers. Im just saying that I do know how long it does take to get somewhere as a pilot and doing all that work just to become a pilot in the US would be pointless.

 

[McG]

They could have probably gotten into the Canadian Airforce and probably made it the ranks.

STOP.   You have no background to make that assumption and hand it out as advice.   This little bit of direction is included in the guidelines (which we mods all know you have read).

 

[DEVES]

As all pilots know getting hours is hard and getting a job is even harder. My Father used to be a pilot for Canadian. The aviation business for pilots is hard to get a job. My brother in law also was a Canadian citizen and wanted to be in the US army and it took him 3 years to get in. So take that all and add up the time of 2 years to get Diploma and get hours to get a job and get enough experience to be sponsored and make enough money to get all your training. I don't know how I am making any assumptions its all known facts.

Assuming that I am assuming Is your prerogative : I'm just saying all that work to be in the US airforce. The Canadian Airforce isn't all bad. If the guys willing to do all of the work to try to get into the US airforce he would probably do awesome in the CF.

Thats all.

 

[McG]

I don't know how I am making any assumptions its all known facts.

Assuming that I am assuming Is your prerogative : ... If the guys willing to do all of the work to try to get into the US airforce he would probably do awesome in the CF.

Everything you have posted about the Canadian Air Force is from right out your back end.  You've stated that one could become a major as a pilot in the CF faster that to just get into the USAF.  You are not qualified to state this.  You have suggested that every person in the Canadian Air Force is an officer.  This is wrong.  Even the bolded part of the qoute above is outside your lane. 

People have been baned because they could not stay within thier lanes.  So, stay in yours.

Talk all you want about the time it takes to become a pilot.  Don't give career advice on the Canadian Forces.

 

[Maine_Finn]

What I meant is Immigrate from Canada to the United States looking for sponship from a civilian employer. And then I can join the United States Armed Forces.

I have precious little experience in the field of aviation, so if I'm out of line I apologise.

If you have a particular employer in mind I would suggest contacting them. Find out what requirements (education, experience, and so on) they have and then work to meet those requirements. As with most things involving education it will take time.

 

[Strike]

If you are Canadian and your goal is to become a pilot for an American aviation employer, I wish you luck.  Pilot is one of those positions that doesn't fall within NAFTA -- IOW, the U.S. company must employ a qualified American, even if a Canadian applies that has better experience, if such an American is available, before they consider a foreigner.  The only way to get around this is with dual citizenship.

WRT flying military in the U.S., if you want to fly fixed wing, which is generally an officer trade, you must be an American citizen.  Period.  However, if you wish to go helicopters, where some of the pilots are actually in the ranks (U.S. Army being an example), you can get away with having dual citizenship.

Having several friends with experience within the States, and others that work for the airlines, it's fair to say that my info is pretty good.  (Since everyone in this thread seems to want to bash everyone else when it comes to accuracy.)

 

[mdh]

If you are Canadian and your goal is to become a pilot for an American aviation employer, I wish you luck.  Pilot is one of those positions that doesn't fall within NAFTA -- IOW, the U.S. company must employ a qualified American, even if a Canadian applies that has better experience, if such an American is available, before they consider a foreigner.  The only way to get around this is with dual citizenship.

WRT flying military in the U.S., if you want to fly fixed wing, which is generally an officer trade, you must be an American citizen.  Period.  However, if you wish to go helicopters, where some of the pilots are actually in the ranks (U.S. Army being an example), you can get away with having dual citizenship.

Having several friends with experience within the States, and others that work for the airlines, it's fair to say that my info is pretty good.  (Since everyone in this thread seems to want to bash everyone else when it comes to accuracy.)

Strike is right on the money.

I had an instructor who was in the process of getting hired by Embry Riddle as a school instructor at the Arizona campus when 9/11 hit.

Back then there was some xborder movement because of the acute shortage of qualified flight instructors in the US due to the booming aviation business in the late 1990s. US airlines were hiring pilots at a brisk rate - even relatively low time ones. (Hard to believe now).

Needless to say the application failed after the attacks and the airline industry collapsed (seemingly overnight.) Tons of qualified pilots were laid off - and as a result so there is no shortage of experienced pilots in the US right now.

The US Army does recruit its pilots under the Warrant Officer program - although it's my understanding that this is actually a designation for a technical specialist rather than a senior NCO rank per se (Strike can probably elaborate on this better than I can).

Cheers, mdh

 

[Warvstar]

If you are Canadian and your goal is to become a pilot for an American aviation employer, I wish you luck.  Pilot is one of those positions that doesn't fall within NAFTA -- IOW, the U.S. company must employ a qualified American, even if a Canadian applies that has better experience, if such an American is available, before they consider a foreigner.  The only way to get around this is with dual citizenship.

WRT flying military in the U.S., if you want to fly fixed wing, which is generally an officer trade, you must be an American citizen.  Period.  However, if you wish to go helicopters, where some of the pilots are actually in the ranks (U.S. Army being an example), you can get away with having dual citizenship.

Having several friends with experience within the States, and others that work for the airlines, it's fair to say that my info is pretty good.  (Since everyone in this thread seems to want to bash everyone else when it comes to accuracy.)

Im totally fine with having dual citizenship. Thanks for the comments guys.