DRILL ON THE PARADE SQUARE
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You should be able to download the CFP 265. It's the drill manual. Use it, practice it in your room or get a couple of your platoon mates to go out to he drill deck for a while every night and eventually it will become second nature. There are no quick fixes or easy tricks. Practice is the best way to learn it.
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morley33 said:
How about asking your course staff for help? I am sure your MCpl/Sgt would be happy to get you squared away with drill...
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Personally, I'd prefer to be the grey man on course....
Morely, here's the PAM. It's everything you wanted to know about CF Drill:
http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/Downloads/cfp201.pdf
And then just do what FDO said. Grab your buddies and call drill for each other.
And please, take the CAPS Lock off and write like you're Grade 10 educated. That means full sentences, grammar, and punctuation.
Good luck!
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Actually, even more critical than knowing the movement yourself is the sequence of the drill lesson. Breaking the movement down and teaching each part correctly is the key to a good drill lesson:
Sequence of a Drill Period
1. Place squad in a suitable formation
2. Conduct a review of the previous related lesson
Lesson
a. STAND squad at ease
b. STATE the movement to be taught, the aim, reason and where it fits in
c. STAND squad easy
d. Demonstrate complete movement calling the time
e. Break the movement into NUMBERS
f. Demonstrate and explain squad 1. Ensure squad has no questions
g. Practice collectively, individually and collectively (at least 3X each)
h. Teach subsequent movements as per sub-paragraph c to g
i. Demonstrate complete movement again
j. Practice with instructor calling the time (at lest 3X)
k. Practice with squad calling the time (at least 3X)
l. Practice with squad judging the time (at least 3X)
m. State that you will, and then conduct the test (at least 3X)
n. STAND the squad at ease
o. Restate sub-paragraph b
p. State the level of achievement
q. State the next drill lesson, when it will take place and the name of the instructor
Sequence of a Drill Period
1. Place squad in a suitable formation
2. Conduct a review of the previous related lesson
Lesson
a. STAND squad at ease
b. STATE the movement to be taught, the aim, reason and where it fits in
c. STAND squad easy
d. Demonstrate complete movement calling the time
e. Break the movement into NUMBERS
f. Demonstrate and explain squad 1. Ensure squad has no questions
g. Practice collectively, individually and collectively (at least 3X each)
h. Teach subsequent movements as per sub-paragraph c to g
i. Demonstrate complete movement again
j. Practice with instructor calling the time (at lest 3X)
k. Practice with squad calling the time (at least 3X)
l. Practice with squad judging the time (at least 3X)
m. State that you will, and then conduct the test (at least 3X)
n. STAND the squad at ease
o. Restate sub-paragraph b
p. State the level of achievement
q. State the next drill lesson, when it will take place and the name of the instructor
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Technoviking said:
Almost as good as being a member of Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry! ;D
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Shoulda known that this thread would attract rock painters and princesses like moths to a flame 8) ;D
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recceguy said:
Now that's funny!! We're off topic.
The only cure for bad drill is more practice under the supervision of a competent NCO.
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Mid Aged Silverback said:
Agreed.
And, at the risk of entering the Regiment vs. regiment quarrel, fray and disorder yet again, drill matters.
Drill induces teamwork, pride in the team - section, platoon, company, battalion and so on, right up to and including the country itself - and pride in oneself.
Drill - the ability to execute drill movements correctly (which equals smartly) sets us apart from the huddled masses; and I say "us" because I can still see the drill, and all it implies, in 70 and 80 year old men.
Good drill is learned by practice and focus, it is not natural for most of us, but, with training and focus it becomes second nature - and when it does it becomes easier to learn and master other military skills, many of which require attention to detail and perseverance.
If you need help: ask for it. Time spent crushing gravel, learning to be smart, learning to take instinctive actions, is time well spent.
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BYT Driver said:
You know. Those get togethers on an Air Force base, where you get all the remusters from the combat arms to put on the really good uniform with the tie. Then they all line up and follow each other around while the guy on the stage salutes them. Sometimes they even have music. ;D
Drill indeed has its place as a means to an end, and not as the be all and end all of military achievement. I don't know of any trail or study that linked competence at foot and arms drill with proficiency in weapons handling, gun or crew drill, the ability to handle complicated communications gear, etc, etc. Can anyone throw some light on this?
I do know of one instance where drill did pay off. When the Federal Republic of Germany emered from the occupation, one of the challenges it faced was the plight of its native First World War veterans in what had been German East Africa. One of the hurdles before pensions could be granted was to identify the recipients as the reconds had been lost/destroyed. The solution arrived at was to muster the applicants and interview them individually. Part of the interview was to parade the prospective recipient complete with a wooden rifle and put him through the manual of arms. Virtually all of them performed splendidly and were granted a pernsion on the spot.
I could relate other instances of where drill did not achieve its aim, but that may be for a later post.
I do know of one instance where drill did pay off. When the Federal Republic of Germany emered from the occupation, one of the challenges it faced was the plight of its native First World War veterans in what had been German East Africa. One of the hurdles before pensions could be granted was to identify the recipients as the reconds had been lost/destroyed. The solution arrived at was to muster the applicants and interview them individually. Part of the interview was to parade the prospective recipient complete with a wooden rifle and put him through the manual of arms. Virtually all of them performed splendidly and were granted a pernsion on the spot.
I could relate other instances of where drill did not achieve its aim, but that may be for a later post.
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Drill has its place, that is on the square.
It's purpose is:
Instill a sense of immediate obedience
Instill discipline - for instance, if a mosquito is biting you, you don't move to hit it
Instill a sense of pride and belonging
Instill Teamwork.
It's purpose is:
Instill a sense of immediate obedience
Instill discipline - for instance, if a mosquito is biting you, you don't move to hit it
Instill a sense of pride and belonging
Instill Teamwork.
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You forgot one:
Gives you something to do on a Bde parade in Calgary in August for 90 mins while the reviewing officer sits in the mess and has his third "just one more" drink.
Gives you something to do on a Bde parade in Calgary in August for 90 mins while the reviewing officer sits in the mess and has his third "just one more" drink.
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Mid Aged Silverback said:
I can think of quite a few ways of accomplishing all those things that would be a more effective use of the limited ammount of training time that is available.
Drill is an antiquated way........
We teach drill because we do parades formations for various occasions, let us stop kidding ourselves.
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While Douglas Bland's article "No Time for Drill" (Major Douglas Bland in “No Time for Drill,” Canadian Defence. Quarterly, Autumn 1981, pp. 25-28.) was quite influential for me, no one has articulated a convincing alternative that can take the place of parade square drill within the same parameters of time and resources.
Yes, "outward bound" type training could accomplish the same purpose, and given the limited time and resources we do have there is an argument to put all the time towards fieldcraft, weaponscraft and so on, but drill is simple and effective (and has been in use since the Res Publica Roma; even the Spartans had a form of drill), so there is an argument to keep drill as an important part of training.
Yes, "outward bound" type training could accomplish the same purpose, and given the limited time and resources we do have there is an argument to put all the time towards fieldcraft, weaponscraft and so on, but drill is simple and effective (and has been in use since the Res Publica Roma; even the Spartans had a form of drill), so there is an argument to keep drill as an important part of training.
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