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Being in a pretty pickle, I'm seeking some clarification and possibly some guidance.
Long story short, being told I was not entitled to an IRP move after the fact, thus, being told I'm required to repay everything.
"CFIRP 2009 - Clarification Bulletin 4 - 1 APR 09
The limitation contained in article 1.1.03 was changed in APS 2009 in order to provide CFIRP relocation benefits to those who had graduated from basic military training or basic officer training. The intent of the change was to reduce the number of BTL cost moves by posting these CF members to their first place of duty allowing these CF members to get settled in their first place of duty and create some family stability, if applicable. These CF members would then be sent on TD/attach posting to their trades, occupation or equivalent training thereby reducing the number of actual relocations and again providing family stability. Due to difficulties encountered with the business processes the limitation contained in article 1.1.03 of the CF IRP must be suspended until further notice. Eligibility for a CFIRP move will revert to the wording in CFIRP 2008 article 1.1.03.
(Limitation) CF members who enrol or re-enrol, or transfer from the Reserve Force to the Regular Force, and have not successfully completed the basic military occupation or trade training or its equivalent for the occupation or trade for which they enrol, re-enrol or transfer are not entitled to relocation benefits under the CFIRP, unless they are:"
The biggest concern out of that mess is that it removes the eligibility from members who have not completed trade training, but have completed basic, ie: my situation.
Now:
CANFORGEN 066/09 CMP 029/09 - 16 APR 09 1423Z
"UNCLASSIFIED
1. THE PURPOSE OF THIS MESSAGE IS TO INFORM ALL CF MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY THE VERY SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF THEM WHO WILL BE RELOCATED BY ACTIVE POSTING SEASON 09 (APS 09), AND THEREBY PARTICIPATE IN THE CANADIAN FORCES INTEGRATED RELOCATION PROGRAM (CFIRP),
...
3. A. ELIGIBILITY TO RELOCATION UNDER THE CFIRP HAS BEEN AMENDED TO INCLUDE ALL CF MEMBERS WHO ARE AUTHORIZED TO MOVE THEIR (D)HG AND E AND WHO HAVE COMPLETED BASIC MILITARY TRAINING IN THE CASE OF NON COMMISSIONED MEMBERS, OR BASIC OFFICER TRAINING IN THE CASE OF OFFICERS"
Essentially, no amendment has been made to the CANFORGEN, and although it appears to be a summary of the proposed changes to CFIRP09, would this have any bearing on the actual entitlement to move? The biggest confusion (and the fact I believe I was given "bad" advice at the time, was due to this CANFORGEN).
Any help or suggestion would be appreciated, but I am currently on my way to setup my repayment "plan".
Long story short, being told I was not entitled to an IRP move after the fact, thus, being told I'm required to repay everything.
"CFIRP 2009 - Clarification Bulletin 4 - 1 APR 09
The limitation contained in article 1.1.03 was changed in APS 2009 in order to provide CFIRP relocation benefits to those who had graduated from basic military training or basic officer training. The intent of the change was to reduce the number of BTL cost moves by posting these CF members to their first place of duty allowing these CF members to get settled in their first place of duty and create some family stability, if applicable. These CF members would then be sent on TD/attach posting to their trades, occupation or equivalent training thereby reducing the number of actual relocations and again providing family stability. Due to difficulties encountered with the business processes the limitation contained in article 1.1.03 of the CF IRP must be suspended until further notice. Eligibility for a CFIRP move will revert to the wording in CFIRP 2008 article 1.1.03.
(Limitation) CF members who enrol or re-enrol, or transfer from the Reserve Force to the Regular Force, and have not successfully completed the basic military occupation or trade training or its equivalent for the occupation or trade for which they enrol, re-enrol or transfer are not entitled to relocation benefits under the CFIRP, unless they are:"
The biggest concern out of that mess is that it removes the eligibility from members who have not completed trade training, but have completed basic, ie: my situation.
Now:
CANFORGEN 066/09 CMP 029/09 - 16 APR 09 1423Z
"UNCLASSIFIED
1. THE PURPOSE OF THIS MESSAGE IS TO INFORM ALL CF MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY THE VERY SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF THEM WHO WILL BE RELOCATED BY ACTIVE POSTING SEASON 09 (APS 09), AND THEREBY PARTICIPATE IN THE CANADIAN FORCES INTEGRATED RELOCATION PROGRAM (CFIRP),
...
3. A. ELIGIBILITY TO RELOCATION UNDER THE CFIRP HAS BEEN AMENDED TO INCLUDE ALL CF MEMBERS WHO ARE AUTHORIZED TO MOVE THEIR (D)HG AND E AND WHO HAVE COMPLETED BASIC MILITARY TRAINING IN THE CASE OF NON COMMISSIONED MEMBERS, OR BASIC OFFICER TRAINING IN THE CASE OF OFFICERS"
Essentially, no amendment has been made to the CANFORGEN, and although it appears to be a summary of the proposed changes to CFIRP09, would this have any bearing on the actual entitlement to move? The biggest confusion (and the fact I believe I was given "bad" advice at the time, was due to this CANFORGEN).
Any help or suggestion would be appreciated, but I am currently on my way to setup my repayment "plan".