Infanteer said:5 days is what it takes to spit out a 2Lt. now? The reserves seems to be doing a good job undercutting itself out of the job real fast (like the "qualified" MITCIP officers....).
Are you sure about this ??? There are publications that define what Basic Offr trg is: a QS (Qualification Standard) and a TP (Training Plan). While BMQ and IAP are similar, there are differences that cannot be overlooked. A 5-day BOTP is useless...Eowyn said:In 41 CBG, you would take BMQ with the Ptes, then take a 5 day course on leadership. This qualifies you with BOTC and permits you to take CAP(R).
Yes I'm sure about that. We had 2 junior officers on a BMQ last winter. Unfortunately neither of them could finish, due to work commitments. My Adjt mentioned the 5 day requirement to qualify them BOTP.Jungle said:Are you sure about this ??? There are publications that define what Basic Offr trg is: a QS (Qualification Standard) and a TP (Training Plan). While BMQ and IAP are similar, there are differences that cannot be overlooked. A 5-day BOTP is useless...
Sigh...you try and build bridges but there's always some reg force guy out there....
mdh said:Infanteer,
Actually I've read your previous posts and have always found them interesting, informative and thoughtful. It's not my intention to start a shooting war about reg.vs reserve either, but I should always be aware of the "law of unintended consequences" when posting on forums. I was really trying to make a light-hearted jab rather and a categorical put-down. But to address the main point, I think the arguments about the inadequacies of officer training in the Militia are well known (as you have pointed out). Is five days sufficient? No I don't think so, but on the other hand we try our best in balancing professional careers, family and reserve obligations. I think one previous poster noted that two junior officer candidates dropped out of training because they couldn't find that balance. That's a loss for us because we need good people who want to commit their spare time to this exotic enterprise called the Militia - (an alternative lifestyle if there ever was one in contemporary Canada). So in fact I agree with you and the other posters, reserve training for officers is not what it should be, but I am not sure what the alternatives are given some of the hard realities we face in making the current system work. I hope that clarifies my comment with no wish to offend,
Cheers, mdh
Infanteer said:Seen.
However, if a person is unable to complete a 5 day training period because their personal/professional life is incompatible, which to me seems indicative of the time the will be able to give to their unit for the rest of the reserve career, then perhaps the Army Reserves is just not a suitable place for them to be.
Nope. IIRC, it had something to do with standards and course reports. That PO had to be done that weekend because of training aids. I think it was gas hut training.mdh said:Hi Eowyn,
Just curious - wouldn't they allow him to re-do that weekend at some other date to qualify?